Do you want open book/blind meditiation?

[Seungkyu]

As a kid, I would run up to casters and crouch my ass on their faces as they meditated.
My paladin would say stuff like "be blessed my child".

Spellbook blindness is classic, and so is my farting in your face. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lojik]

Too bad we can't get the original book UI working. As far as other things mentioned, I agree that removing multiple chat boxes would simply get people to other programs to chat (which would result in even more unclassicness.) Raiding guilds already want you in vent or teamspeak or whatever which feels unclassic to me, although I'm sure some similar things were used back in the day.

Removing cycle target definitely should be done if it can be, really trivializes a lot of things. As far as mousewheel scroll, weren't multiple camera views in at launch? I don't see this one as a huge deal if so.

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Too bad we can't get the original book UI working. As far as other things mentioned, I agree that removing multiple chat boxes would simply get people to other programs to chat (which would result in even more unclassicness.) Raiding guilds already want you in vent or teamspeak or whatever which feels unclassic to me, although I'm sure some similar things were used back in the day.

AIM, ICQ. A friend of my roommate who was in the DSL business brought by a headset once to show talk chat. It was very laggy even on early cable.

(couldn't use AIM or ICQ while in game)

This level of organization was not considered in the game design, keep that in mind when one guild uber dominates a raid scene literally waiting for the mob to spawn.

"Hey, you on?"

"Yeah, whats up?"

"That mob spawned a few hours ago"

"Cool, let's go kill it"

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as mousewheel scroll, weren't multiple camera views in at launch? I don't see this one as a huge deal if so.

There were alternate views accessed through F9, but they A) did not follow the character as readily as mousewheel 3rd person does, and B) more critically the controls did not work the same either, particularly mouselook. Old patch notes confirm this in the sense of mentioning changes made to 3rd person controls. Between those two factors 3rd person was only of very limited use and hardly anyone used it for more than screenshots. Sometimes a kiter used it or a monk might've cycled out while feigned.

I agree with your (and others') assessment that single chat window would most likely cause the cancer known as Discord to filter down into regular grouping. In that case the cure is worse than the symptom. I play with single chat window on a couple of alts and it's not bad, but recent discussions have shown that some elements of this community have become extremely resistant to any sort of change.

Danth

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree with your (and others') assessment that single chat window would most likely cause the cancer known as Discord to filter down into regular grouping. In that case the cure is worse than the symptom. I play with single chat window on a couple of alts and it's not bad, but recent discussions have shown that some elements of this community have become extremely resistant to any sort of change.

That's a good point. I don't mind voice chat at all, especially just listening to raid instruction. But it can already be tough to find groups of guildies who will do an xp group only in chat rather than getting on the mic. I would HATE for a chat window change to lead to a meta where every pick up xp group expects people to jump in discord. Playing EQ without banter in text chat would bum me right out.

[Deathrydar]

I despise voice chat programs. Ruins the immersion imo.

[Vexenu]

Cycle target key - Makes CCing multiple mobs MUCH easier than it was in Classic. Essentially a buff to what is already the most overpowered class in the game (Enchanter).

3rd person scroll wheel - Allows for easier melee positioning and increases situational awareness at the cost of reducing immersion.

Both un-classic and should be removed.

[Valion]

I could have used voice chat back in the day. I fell asleep waiting for a rez on my first few plane raids. Tense week waiting for the next guild in line to raid hoping my body didn't poof before they could break in and rez it. A "Hey Idiot Wake Up" in my ear would have been most helpful. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Valion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I could have used voice chat back in the day. I fell asleep waiting for a rez on my first few plane raids. Tense week waiting for the next guild in line to raid hoping my body didn't poof before they could break in and rez it. A "Hey Idiot Wake Up" in my ear would have been most helpful. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trust me, I've been been on raids where people fall asleep with voice chat (especially if there's any alcohol or other chemicals involved, but also even if they're just really tired) ... the "Hey Idiot Wake Up" won't help [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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