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Old 09-26-2019, 01:51 PM
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I'm personally leaning towards you just seem to be biased towards EQ so much it's blinding you.
When someone posts their personal opinion about why they enjoy or don't enjoy a certain thing, and then someone else jumps in to correct inaccuracies and make personal attacks about that person being blinded and biased, any further replies probably won't go so well due to the obvious emotional investment. Still, I'm a glutton like that.

So first, there are a hundred add-ons that make a ton of aspects of the game trivial. These are all legal and approved by Blizzard, which controls the API necessary to run them, so like it or not they are all part of the Classic experience as they are presenting it to you. I know for a fact that it's not optional to run certain add-ons if you want to do raids, and everyone I know who PvPs runs the Spy add-on which tells you the name, class, and level range of all enemies in range. I mean yeah, you could not use these add-on's but "that would be your decision to do something that silly." For you to compare GINA and custom interfaces to something like Atlas or Domino or Questy is either disingenuous or reveals unfamiliarity with the tech. I don't remember GINA giving me a linked and labelled raid instance map with all the drops and bosses sorted, or holding my hand through every step of the quest showing me the locations of the spawns I need to kill.

I'm sorry you took my 10 second spawn comment literally. Outside of places like the Oasis, the vast majority of camps and leveling spots in EQ are indoors, where the spawn timer is like 25 minutes. That means you can pull the area and adjacent ones, then you have a little downtime so you can rest and socialize. In WoW there is no downtime. No time to talk, to emote, to dance, to hang out. It's just go go go go. If you like that, fine, for me it makes me anxious because if I'm ready to fight and I'm not fighting, then what's going on? My point is that WoW is overrun with mobs, there is no downtime, and the pace much faster than EQ in literally every single aspect of the game.

I'm not sure what to make of your comment about a warrior leveling fine with potions and bandages. I submit it's impossible. I mean in WoW when I get to 20% health I pop a Hamstring on their ass and then strafe away laughing and they stop chasing after 5 seconds. In EQ my warrior dies and I eat the exp loss. I would love to hear a story of someone in EQ who leveled a warrior solo to 60 without going mad, but I don't think such a unicorn exists.

The zones in WoW are indeed bigger, and there are more of them! Which is why it's super awesome you only have to get to each town once on foot. All that running, amirite? Once you've been there, you go to the f̶l̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶m̶a̶s̶t̶e̶r̶* airport and you choose your flight, each one with a super-saver fare too, and you're off on a wonderful plane that never crashes or runs out of fuel or is even late. Now that's service! There are I think 34 airports like that? Let's hear it for those big zones!

So anyway, I hope I have successfully countered your claims I was inaccurate in any way. The rest of your comments were sort of like "well I wouldn't play like that" which is fair but moot.
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Old 09-26-2019, 08:20 AM
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I played WoW from the start till Wrath of the Lich King (Raiding). When the chips are down. Its easy.

It's insultingly easy infact. If you yearn for a challenge wow was never and never will be it.

Lets be clear, i love WoW. But WoW to me is that game i play sometimes to pass time and see some lore without much work. It leads you by the nose.

Zone A --> Zone B etc

The difference between EQ now and Classic EQ is utterly GRAND CANYON stuff compared to WoW and Classic WoW
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Old 09-26-2019, 11:48 AM
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Comparing WoW to EQ is largely pointless. Warcraft was on the order six to eight times more popular than EQ even in EQ's home market (North America), and the former also had international appeal that EQ mostly lacked. EQ (and to a lesser extent Ultima before it) demonstrated the potential of the MMOG market, but it was Warcraft which tapped that potential.

That being said, I can definitely compare wow-classic of 2019 to Warcraft of late 2004/early 2005, and in that case the modern product falls far short. Today's product is warcraft-lite.....a thinned-down decaf product for folks who only want to dabble or who couldn't handle the real deal. Yuck. I wanted the real thing, didn't get it, so I elected not to settle for a half-measure.

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Old 09-27-2019, 08:28 AM
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Old 09-25-2019, 03:52 PM
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I'm not playing much, but I'm at lvl 49 classic WoW. Enjoying it a lot on a PvP server. Still.. I can't wait to shelve it the moment Green launches.

I plan to play both. EQ offers plenty of opportunity to play passively while still making gains. You probably dont have to pick one over the other. There will be plenty of time to play WoW while camping that one lvl 3 a decaying skeleton repop on launch day. Starter zones gonna be such a beautiful mess!
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Old 09-25-2019, 03:59 PM
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I'm finding it takes longer to level in classic wow vs EQ, at least up until 50.
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Old 09-25-2019, 04:00 PM
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Wow classic was a big joke, all they did was download a core from another private server and apply recent textures and add dungeon finder.

Ragnaros was killed 5 days into the server release and 30 players that were not even 60 killed it, anyone playing is a loser.

All content is a dumbed down joke, each server is infested with stay at home sons and sickies who cant wait to get stupid tier whatever gear and jump at the bank. Go ahead and play if you want to spend a week in westfall killing gnolls just to get to 20.

i wont say anything postive about green either because there is no pvp, that means people will just fight at every camp about everything. Expect to be 50th in line at the frenzy camp for what, a shitty sash in 2019?

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Oh and those stay at home sons have an autistic mastery of the game after spending 16 hours on it daily. On p1999 people are generally pretty accomadating to newbs, but on wow these autists can't even conceive someone doesn't have an encyclopedic knowledge of the game. They treat a level 17 dungeon as cutting esge content requiring the toppest spec minmax... it don't matter if a paladin is speced for heal or tank when they only have earnt 8 or 9 talent points so far.
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Old 09-25-2019, 05:12 PM
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Real conversation I had with another player just before I stopped playing Classic WoW this past Sunday...

*I was going into ZF (a dungeon in Tanaris)*
Party leader: "You don't have Mortal Strike?"
Me: "Not yet."
Party Leader: "Why not?"
Me: ".......what do you mean why not? I put my talent points into Cruelty so I am 5 points behind in Arms."
Party Leader: "That's why you re-spec at level 40."
Me: "I don't want to respec."

*You have been removed from the group*

This crap really happens...
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Old 09-25-2019, 05:28 PM
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Real conversation I had with another player just before I stopped playing Classic WoW this past Sunday...

*I was going into ZF (a dungeon in Tanaris)*
Party leader: "You don't have Mortal Strike?"
Me: "Not yet."
Party Leader: "Why not?"
Me: ".......what do you mean why not? I put my talent points into Cruelty so I am 5 points behind in Arms."
Party Leader: "That's why you re-spec at level 40."
Me: "I don't want to respec."

*You have been removed from the group*

This crap really happens...
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I think OP thought Rants and Flames meant "O gosh darn I'm so angry about this thing! O look, here's a place where I can vent about that!"

But didn't realize that this is more like... P99's 4chan or something.

except instead of random anons its a shark attack of a small clique that posts here all the time. so he's doubly fucked.
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Old 09-25-2019, 05:28 PM
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I see that. Poor me. I wish I could be 1337 liek they r.
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