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Old 07-28-2019, 02:21 AM
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So just use the level 12 snare and dots or use the level 12 snare, fear then dots?

What about when Allizewsaur starts beating the hell out of my pet if I run far back and med until I need to snare again?
If you're saying Fear is getting resisted a lot and you're running out of mana, then I wouldn't bother with it, and just try to kite. The most important thing is keeping snare up, so your pet can get all its DPS in and you can cast other spells or med.

Aggro shouldn't be an issue if you're keeping all the DoT's stacked. All those snare casts, Splurt, Plague, Ignite Blood, the Level 49 Lifetap DoT...pet shouldn't be able to top that.

Ideally you should try to Fear though, because otherwise your DoT's are doing 33% less damage. Exactly how much was it getting resisted? It really shouldn't be THAT much if you're level 55. Even with these resists on your Snare/Fear that you seem to be getting, I don't think mana should be an issue if you're using the Level 12 snare? I don't know why Allizewsaur would be running into the water either, you can pull him up to the top of the hill and fear there, leaving plenty of room.
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Old 07-28-2019, 01:54 AM
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I wish my memory wasn't so damn bad. splurt is the most mana efficient dot, right? Start with only using that and the aforementioned low level snare/fear. Pet in tow. Maybe vexing to keep yourself alive. If he outruns jboots(?) bring sow pots. If he breaks fear and starts smacking the pet call it off until he's back on land to re-up on snare/fear/splurt. disease cloud to keep aggro off the pet.
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Old 07-28-2019, 02:23 AM
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I wish my memory wasn't so damn bad. splurt is the most mana efficient dot, right? Start with only using that and the aforementioned low level snare/fear. Pet in tow. Maybe vexing to keep yourself alive. If he outruns jboots(?) bring sow pots. If he breaks fear and starts smacking the pet call it off until he's back on land to re-up on snare/fear/splurt. disease cloud to keep aggro off the pet.
Let me see if I got this...

Use Disease Cloud and Shadow Vortex to keep aggro off my pet but first, use Engulfing Darkness to snare, followed by Invoke Fear to fear and dot with Splurt and Ignite Blood.

Makes you wonder why high level spells are even needed?
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Old 07-30-2019, 11:50 AM
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Let me see if I got this...

Use Disease Cloud and Shadow Vortex to keep aggro off my pet but first, use Engulfing Darkness to snare, followed by Invoke Fear to fear and dot with Splurt and Ignite Blood.

Makes you wonder why high level spells are even needed?
Cascading darkness is a terrible spell.

It has bad efficiency, long cast time (these make resists worse), and the extra snare doesn't have an impact.

You want to kite this mob by keeping agro and having your pet hit it in the back while it chases you. Use the rogue pet, give it haste, and make sure to turn taunt off.

Easiest way is to just root the dino, while it is rooted throw a splurt and ignite blood, after it has taken some damage, let the root break and snare it, send your pet in and start running laps.

Refresh snare in time, along with splurt and some disease clouds so you keep agro.

Keep up your mana -> hp conversion spell, and throw in the occasional bond of death to keep your HP above 500ish so you can't get one-rounded.

While kiting, keep your distance, when the server tick is near, sit down so you get mana for meditating, after the tick resume running. At start you can use this trick every other tick to learn it, after you get better you should be able to med at least 2/3 of the ticks. This is very important.

If you are planning a long session, pick up some mage summoned weapons and haste items to help your pet, which is your main source of DPS for this fight.

Do not fearkite with invoke fear. The mob has too many hp to make this efficient, you'll be spending a lot of mana casting fear, and you'll have to chase the mob, which obviously is harder to control then having the mob chase you.

Have DMF up, since you'll be able to outrun mobs faster on terrain with slopes.

If you play well and manage your resources properly, it is impossible to die to this mob if you don't go LD.
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Old 07-30-2019, 12:10 PM
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While kiting, keep your distance, when the server tick is near, sit down so you get mana for meditating, after the tick resume running. At start you can use this trick every other tick to learn it, after you get better you should be able to med at least 2/3 of the ticks. This is very important.
The guy's level 55 and doesn't know what his spells do. This is going to be far outside his capabilities or even comprehension.
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Old 07-28-2019, 02:04 AM
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Old 07-28-2019, 02:29 AM
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Shits kind of ridiculous. High level spells work well on low MR mobs. On high MR mobs you use what you can. Can't afford to waste mana.

I played a paladin on live. A mentor of mine told me to never use pacify. Always use calm. It doesn't cost as much mana and lasts for same duration. Kind of the same thing here. Higher doesn't always mean better. You have to find the right tool for the job when you're doing things on the edge of your capabilities.

I live by the motto: If I ain't dieing, I ain't trying.

Keep playing with it, you will get a rhythm eventually.
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Old 07-28-2019, 02:38 AM
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Give your pet a tash stick or go wack him with it yourself if you can get him feared the first time, as long as you have a sow or even jboots is fine.
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Old 07-28-2019, 02:52 AM
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Give your pet a tash stick or go wack him with it yourself if you can get him feared the first time, as long as you have a sow or even jboots is fine.
I'm using JBoots so I should be able to out run him...
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Old 07-28-2019, 03:28 AM
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I tried finding some early server posts to use as reference, but gave up after about 10 minutes and started looking up some old friends.... I get distracted easily.
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