Recruitment Advice for AM.

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Vallaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty shitty of him to do that but aren't those the guards that were trained on them.

[Sat Jun 15 00:01:15 2019] Diamondfist says out of character, 'pulling out vulak flurries, AM you are locked on aary please move out of the way'

[Vallaen]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Sat Jun 15 00:01:15 2019] Diamondfist says out of character, 'pulling out vulak flurries, AM you are locked on aary please move out of the way'

Doesnt mean you can pull right on top of the other guild :P

its like when AM ate a KT concede when tempest wiped and we started killing KT and they were rezzing right on top of it and dying.

But like i said i wasnt there and seems like its a good thing hehe

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Vallaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doesnt mean you can pull right on top of the other guild :P

its like when AM ate a KT concede when tempest wiped and we started killing KT and they were rezzing right on top of it and dying.

But like i said i wasnt there and seems like its a good thing hehe

I think the assumption that rulings made by Sirken during the Tempest era should bind anyone going forward is misguided and inconsistent with what Llandris has said.

[whyyoukickmydog]

Originally Posted by Caball [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean.. this is how AM chose to respond to it

https://youtu.be/9eN5_npp6WQ

Riptoes, one of AM’s biggest shit talkers, lost his cool after realizing they were going to lose Vulak. There he is intentionally training multiple flurries into the camp of every other guild in ToV while AM was no where close to our camp, a blatant rage train. That’s pretty scummy and shows a big sore loser who can’t handle other people having a good time together. I hope this was a solo act and not something that others supported, that is an awful way to play this game and I would think someone who acts likes that would face repercussions.

No doubt a disappointing move from a member with our tag, but that is just 1 person out of 234. Most of our members are decent people, and we were quick to pull the trigger on the concession once the evidence was presented.

We have no issues with conceding when we are wrong and strive to always follow the rules even though the rest of the server pretends this is not the case. However, it would have been nice not to get trained at Eashen and then have Riot immediately steal that dragon and zerg another while we attempt to recover from their dubious behavior.

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by whyyoukickmydog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No doubt a disappointing move from a member with our tag, but that is just 1 person out of 234. Most of our members are decent people, and we were quick to pull the trigger on the concession once the evidence was presented.

We have no issues with conceding when we are wrong and strive to always follow the rules even though the rest of the server pretends this is not the case. However, it would have been nice not to get trained at Eashen and then have Riot immediately steal that dragon and zerg another while we attempt to recover from their dubious behavior.

When evidence showing what happened was provided regarding Eashen, 2x of Eashen were conceded as is practice.

[whyyoukickmydog]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When evidence showing what happened was provided regarding Eashen, 2x of Eashen were conceded as is practice.

I doubt anyone would question that Riot has mature leadership, but all I was doing was lamenting the fact that this behavior led to losing yet another dragon. I'm not so sure that Riot cleared north before zerging dragon #2 though. Did they?

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by whyyoukickmydog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I doubt anyone would question that Riot has mature leadership, but all I was doing was lamenting the fact that this behavior led to losing yet another dragon. I'm not so sure that Riot cleared north before zerging dragon #2 though. Did they?

If there’s an issue present evidence and raise it in the appropriate channels.

[fan D]

Originally Posted by Caball [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean.. this is how AM chose to respond to it

https://youtu.be/9eN5_npp6WQ

Riptoes, one of AM’s biggest shit talkers, lost his cool after realizing they were going to lose Vulak. There he is intentionally training multiple flurries into the camp of every other guild in ToV while AM was no where close to our camp, a blatant rage train. That’s pretty scummy and shows a big sore loser who can’t handle other people having a good time together. I hope this was a solo act and not something that others supported, that is an awful way to play this game and I would think someone who acts likes that would face repercussions.

you are a god damn loser jesus christ kid

[nyclin]

Originally Posted by Caball [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean.. this is how AM chose to respond to it

https://youtu.be/9eN5_npp6WQ

Riptoes, one of AM’s biggest shit talkers, lost his cool after realizing they were going to lose Vulak. There he is intentionally training multiple flurries into the camp of every other guild in ToV while AM was no where close to our camp, a blatant rage train. That’s pretty scummy and shows a big sore loser who can’t handle other people having a good time together. I hope this was a solo act and not something that others supported, that is an awful way to play this game and I would think someone who acts likes that would face repercussions.

just quoting this again so any AM members can revise their previous arguments against this video

[Arcler]

Riot has 234 members that have made a single raid in the last 30 days (which is basically the entire guild since we've been existence for just over a month).

Amazingly, according to Aftermath's DKP site, they have exactly 234 members that have made a single raid in the last 30 days.

I imagine there's some inactive folks on Aftermath's roster that would increase their numbers by a lot, and there are some inactives in Riot too.

Anyway, Aftermath likes to make a point that we team up with other guilds on some targets and that we have to "share loot with other guilds." We see it as having fun with friends - and some of our friends are in other guilds. PS and Core, the two guilds that founded Riot, had a long history of team-ups and working with other guilds (even AM - PS-AM teamups on AoW were a thing in like.. 2017!) Heck, we even teamed up with Aftermath on the last quake to kill Vyemm and Vulak. We've been flying solo more often now due to numbers and coordination (we're still learning everyone's name, voice, skills, etc. within Riot - we haven't been the phalanx training together for years) but we've not closed the door to working with other guilds and sometimes do so for bigger/more challenging/odd hour spawns. We also enjoy a fair and fun competition - it sucks to lose but there's good fun in the race too.

We don't see working together with other guilds (either as part of an alliance to kill a target or as part of a rotation or agreement) as a net loss for us, but I suppose that's just a difference in philosophy. "Denying your enemy of pixels" is not the end goal philosophy of <Riot>