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Old 02-24-2019, 05:47 PM
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Just move this to RNF so folks can write what they really think.
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:15 PM
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Folks being extra cunty today. Special occasion?
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:20 PM
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If they ever did, I'd switch back to Monk.

Dat Shroud of Longevity, doe.
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Old 02-25-2019, 02:33 PM
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A custom raid zone with semi-equivalent loot to replace the removed content on a top heavy content locked server would be a nice compromise and keep warder loot unique/classic.
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Old 02-25-2019, 02:44 PM
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Give the same middle finger back to the people who woke the Sleeper gave to the rest of the server:

Put the warders back with their original loot tables, with no way to permanenty despawn warders ever again, and watch the self-esteem of the people who woke the Sleeper shrivel to nothing as they will no longer have special/unique gear they get off on having deprived everyone else from ever obtaining.

May not be classic, but neither is top guilds not moving on to Luclin+ content to free up current raid content for other guilds.
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Old 02-25-2019, 03:13 PM
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If we look at classic mechanics vs experience, I don't think any server actually woke the sleeper in velious era, did they? As such is there any proof that the wake the sleeper mechanic was even implemented during p99 era?

Regardless, the ship has sailed and kerafym has flown the nest. Be free young prismat!
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:13 PM
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If we look at classic mechanics vs experience, I don't think any server actually woke the sleeper in velious era, did they? As such is there any proof that the wake the sleeper mechanic was even implemented during p99 era?

Regardless, the ship has sailed and kerafym has flown the nest. Be free young prismat!
Sleeper was indeed awoken during Velious on, at the very least, a few servers.

That being said, I could make an argument against sleeper being awoken too early and that being unclassic.

Basically, Velious launched with an incomplete Sleeper's Tomb as was kind of common for Verant in expansions (polish the uber end game with patches later as folks gear up / discover quest chains, etc).

So on live, eventually Uber_Guild_A (probably Fires of Heaven / Afterlife / Legacy of Steel) keyed up. Remember, the key is NOT soulbound during Velious era. So they sent in a rogue hoping to H/S through and scope the zone.

What do they see upon zoning in? Some human NPC standing there named something like, "!SleeperZoneShoutOn", which was supposed to be the warning shout for entering the zone. There was no mobs in the entire zone! I could probably find the date if I tried.

I'm assuming Sleeper's Tomb was entered early and farmed by P99 neckbeards. In live this would not have been possible.

Also, in live, there was at least 2 bugged sleeper scripts. I think Conquest woke the sleeper once and the sleeper turned into a level 1 human that they killed. Another time after that, script was buggy still and sleeper woke while a warder was still alive and he was reset. Doubtful P99 would recreate those incidents, but they happened.

Someone tell me the dates (such as # of days / weeks after P99 velious launched), when did P99's first warder die? When was the sleeper wakened? I could figure out if he was awakened unclassically.

I would be curious if Rampage would have wakened the sleeper as soon as they did without having the opportunity to farm some warders. Likely more competition would have been present as well, slowing the flow of pixels.

Regardless, if sleeper does ever get reset on Blue, it will be pointless with neckbeard autism levels. I would only be in favor of that if zone becomes no CSR if only 1 warder is left standing. Your best bet is Refresh server, see him woke ever 3-4 years!
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Old 02-25-2019, 03:23 PM
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Sleeper should do a fly-by of EC tunnel every random(7,20) days and wipe out anyone who is afk and less than level 10
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Old 02-25-2019, 03:36 PM
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Aside from "reeeeeeeee not classic" there is no other argument here for not having warders in the game.

Four more high end raid targets would be a good thing. Change my mind.
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Old 02-25-2019, 03:38 PM
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Aside from "reeeeeeeee not classic" there is no other argument here for not having warders in the game.

Four more high end raid targets would be a good thing. Change my mind.
reeeeeeeee not classic
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