Looking for staff clarification on rules about camping

[Grail3r]

Look on the bright side. If you don't like it there is always the next TLP servers coming out next month and they don't have "play nice" rules to worry about .

[Oleris]

Make necro lifetaps work against raid mobs again and I wouldn't care if Idols got nerfed. It would just make my bard and necro even more useful in TOV.

[Grail3r]

Where in the rules does it state that the owner of the camp can give the camp to anyone they wish ? I do not see this rule anywhere .

In fact a list is not even in the rules . So basically you turn up to camp , wait for person to leave . Then its your camp . If someone else comes along and takes camp before other person leaves then petition .

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Grail3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where in the rules does it state that the owner of the camp can give the camp to anyone they wish ? I do not see this rule anywhere .

In fact a list is not even in the rules . So basically you turn up to camp , wait for person to leave . Then its your camp . If someone else comes along and takes camp before other person leaves then petition .

Did you bother to read the second post in the thread?

[Grail3r]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you bother to read the second post in the thread?

Ok read that link , Thanks . That means someone with 2 - 4 friends can practically keep camp forever as long as they show up to the hand over .

An entire guild has no problem holding a camp forever then .

Is this intended gameplay ?

btw I'm just interested to know how things roll before I put serious time into game .If you know in advance how things are then you can't complain.

[Moerne]

Originally Posted by Grail3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok read that link , Thanks . That means someone with 2 - 4 friends can practically keep camp forever as long as they show up to the hand over .

An entire guild has no problem holding a camp forever then .

Is this intended gameplay ?

btw I'm just interested to know how things roll before I put serious time into game .If you know in advance how things are then you can't complain.

This is literally only happening with one specific camp. For an item that is only relevant to guilds that want to compete in ToV at the very top end of raid content. So if your concern is about camps you'll encounter while leveling, or items you'll be interested in as you level, or even that you might want to camp for yourself at level 60...this isn't an issue for you in any way, shape, or form.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Moerne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is literally only happening with one specific camp. For an item that is only relevant to guilds that want to compete in ToV at the very top end of raid content. So if your concern is about camps you'll encounter while leveling, or items you'll be interested in as you level, or even that you might want to camp for yourself at level 60...this isn't an issue for you in any way, shape, or form.

And? How does any of what you said change the fact that guild is monopolizing a camp and denying it to the rest of the server, and how does that in anyway preclude the guy from asking the very legitimate question "Is this intended gameplay ?"

Plus, it's not like the only use of a 1-shot DA is for raiding. Maybe someone wants a backup plan for when they run through SG and fuck up, or maybe someone wants to get to PoM the old-fashioned way (ie. not paying for a CoH). As Aftermath loves to remind us, this server is all about "competition", so why do they (or any group of players) just get to eliminate competition on an item they want?

It's a legit question.

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Grail3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where in the rules does it state that the owner of the camp can give the camp to anyone they wish ? I do not see this rule anywhere .

In fact a list is not even in the rules . So basically you turn up to camp , wait for person to leave . Then its your camp . If someone else comes along and takes camp before other person leaves then petition .

Forgive me for not reading the rest of the thread yet but allow me to give you a scenario.

I’m holding a camp and there’s a list. Suddenly my friend logs on and wants to go next. I pull the plug on my connection. Suddenly list is gone and I can say I had connection problems. Camp becomes open. Friend is right there. The list was cheated and you’ll never prove it.

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Forgive me for not reading the rest of the thread yet but allow me to give you a scenario.

I’m holding a camp and there’s a list. Suddenly my friend logs on and wants to go next. I pull the plug on my connection. Suddenly list is gone and I can say I had connection problems. Camp becomes open. Friend is right there. The list was cheated and you’ll never prove it.

The only way to enforce the list in this case is to have it going LIVE and recorded on these very forums in real time.
So at any given time person can sigh up to the list or see who is next.

So, devs can make a separate forum, and we can have a thread going for each major camp. WOOT 2019 pixels!

P.S. God, how did we do NTVO without the Idol back in a day???

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only way to enforce the list in this case is to have it going LIVE and recorded on these very forums in real time.
So at any given time person can sigh up to the list or see who is next.

So, devs can make a separate forum, and we can have a thread going for each major camp. WOOT 2019 pixels!

P.S. God, how did we do NTVO without the Idol back in a day???

Lists get convoluted in many different ways. If rules became king, when I log on I might sign up for any and every desirable camp and just see which opens up first. Then we're gonna end up with every camp having a list of 100 people with people freely logging in and out. It'd be a mess. I'm not sure what the answer is.