Leveling druids post nerfs

[Valius]

Currently on the server you can't stack dots like that, only one magic and one fire IE: flame lick + stinging swarm and not flame lick + stinging swarm + creeping crud.

[Gaflack]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

on DoTs:

with accuracy to aprox Kunark/velious time period, the ONLY magical Druid dot that doesn't stack with the rest, is the very 1st you get. All others of them do stack.
And of course your fire dots does stack with any magic dot, but they do not stack with themselves - you still have crap load of dots you can stack on your target by level 50 or so. (more than necros in fact)

I never did charm XPing myself as druid back on live, but Snare+Root+Dot+Dot+Dot + SIT and med - works perfectly. From 30 to 40 there are some amazing dwarves you can kill in Buthtcherblock =)

My magic based dots do not stack (51 Druid). I get 1 magic base dot and 1 fire based dot (which gets resisted allot). So root / dotting does not work.

If this nerf (classic or not) gets reversed by Velious then I may stick with the Druid. If it stays this way then it is time to play the overpowered Mage or Enchanter. I would prefer to play the Druid but no dot stacking is a killer.

Gaf

[Valius]

So can someone find some data "proof" showing it didn't work this way during Kunark? Because that's the only way were going to get it reversed.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Winged Death is supposed to stack with any of the other magic dots, and the epic dot is supposed to stack as well, so you could have Winged Death + Drones of Doom (ES vambraces) + epic dot + you could waste mana trying to stick fire dot.

[Polixenes]

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/history/patches.html

Patches from July 2002 - December 2002
Stand Out Occurrences:
- DoT spells cast by different players on an NPC now stack (Sept. 4)

I am fairly sure, but not 100% certain, that this patch change also allowed a single druid's dot spells to stack with each other (other than the fire-based forms which lower AC).

September 2002 post-dates Luclin I believe.

[Chrushev]

Yup luclin was dec 2001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do remember that patch but I don't think the same patch allowed Druid dots to stack, I think that wascacseparate patch.

As a Druid myself, I agree, it is very hard to solo. I haven't tried charm killing since the last patch that adressed resistances, but prior to that it was impossible.

[Alawen Everywhere]

I'm having some trouble even at 53. Multiple ensnare resists, constant root breaks, even some dot resists, lots of charm breaks. I don't know how to come up with the proof the devs always want of how it's supposed to work.

[Knightmare]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm having some trouble even at 53. Multiple ensnare resists, constant root breaks, even some dot resists, lots of charm breaks. I don't know how to come up with the proof the devs always want of how it's supposed to work.

For the 'how it's supposed to work', it can difficult since we don't have access to old coding in every case. But one suggestion would be to take multiple screen shots of it all. Just log in and set a day for fact finding, buff yourself totally and hotkey your SS key and post your results. You may not be able to prove how it 'was' but you can sure prove how it is, and how it's beyond just your imagination and others ranting. Perhaps scan Youtube for old videos. Others can add to your facts and build a body of evidence.

I know this is not 'how it's supposed to be' but unless we post shots and info of just how fubar'd it is, and can show it's way out of control, it comes across as rants without the slightest substantial proof. One such example might be my post on Necromancer threat, it may not be proof, but I can show it isn't just in my head, it's a start anyway, and someone on our end has to make a first move.

The burden of proof sometimes rests on us, the Devs already have their hands full chasing KSers, 2Boxers, code issues, petitions and other such things [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Edit: Link to the post. Not to spam it, but for example.
http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=31686

[Gaflack]

Druid play is pretty much toast and from what I have been reading the dot stacking does not change until after Velious = never on this server.

Maybe this is why I played a Cleric and Enchanter back in the day as it was just a pain to play the Druid until they made it so you could stack your own dots on a mob.

So I either start back on one of the other toons (non-Druid) or give up on the server. Classic was fun but they did have lots of play issues that took years to resolve for some classes.

Gaf

[moklianne]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Winged Death is supposed to stack with any of the other magic dots, and the epic dot is supposed to stack as well, so you could have Winged Death + Drones of Doom (ES vambraces) + epic dot + you could waste mana trying to stick fire dot.

This is how I remember it, however I started playing sometime after Luclin was released...