Career Advice

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've never viewed or treated my nurses as subordinates. We're all a team. Everyone who isn't self employed has a boss or someone they are responsible to.

Yeah I acknowledged that last part. I'm useless for anything if I can't learn to be professional. Is your attitude the exception or the rule, because I feel like one of us has the wrong impression and I don't think it's me. Do you not tell nurses what to do? If they disagree, do you listen to them? I'm not saying you're wrong but I don't see that being the experience with every doctor or surgeon I work with.

Like Sedyt is a doctor and he's a massive c[Insult edited out by Sedyt. Application forums are not the appropriate place for name calling and flames.]

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I acknowledged that last part. I'm useless for anything if I can't learn to be professional. Is your attitude the exception or the rule, because I feel like one of us has the wrong impression and I don't think it's me. Do you not tell nurses what to do? If they disagree, do you listen to them? I'm not saying you're wrong but I don't see that being the experience with every doctor or surgeon I work with.

Like Sedyt is a doctor and he's a massive c[Insult edited out by Sedyt. Application forums are not the appropriate place for name calling and flames.]

It's all over the place really. Of those I've known I'd say about 25% follow my line of thought/behavior, 50% are more neutral and 25% are patriarchal to the nth degree (many of these are frankly dicks).

Do I tell them what to do? Yes and no. I direct the patient care and am ultimately the individual most responsible. We call them orders for a reason. If anyone on my team disagrees (nurse, respiratory therapist. technician, whomever) we pause and discuss/debrief immediately. Most of the time all it takes is explanation and we're back on track, but there have been occasions where a different perspective has saved the bacon of both myself and other docs I've known. This is especially true for seasoned and highly specialized ICU nurses (both pediatric and adult), oncology nurses, and obstetrics nurses. We're all human ... and humans make errors (at all levels of care). They watch my back. I watch theirs.

Originally Posted by Kayso

I think the first decision is to decide rather lifestyle is more or less important than career success/satisfaction. If you love skiing move someplace that allows you ample access to ski and figure out a way to make a living while you're there.

The important things for me are living in a place I like and having weekends off to spend with my family. The place I chose to live is expensive, so a decent income is a necessity. I also like a flexible schedule, again to make time for family.

I'm a commercial real estate broker for those reasons. I don't love or hate my job. The down side is an unreliable income stream -- I've paid more money in taxes in some years than I've made in others. The upside is the flexible schedule. But again, all of those are really secondary concerns to me.

Man ain't that the truth. There are those who live to work and those who work to live. If I rolled out of bed 18 tomorrow morning knowing what I know now, I'd likely take a different path. I'm here now and very happy with the work I do but if I knew just how long and hard the road would be I'd probably do something else. Something less stressful ... and something that would have me drawing a paycheck before I turned 26 (and not eating ramen until nearly 30). 9 years on I'm just now almost free of the debt and I'm pretty sure I've taken years off my life from lack of sleep and stress.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's all over the place really. Of those I've known I'd say about 25% follow my line of thought/behavior, 50% are more neutral and 25% are patriarchal to the nth degree (many of these are frankly dicks).

Do I tell them what to do? Yes and no. I direct the patient care and am ultimately the individual most responsible. We call them orders for a reason. If anyone on my team disagrees (nurse, respiratory therapist. technician, whomever) we pause and discuss/debrief immediately. Most of the time all it takes is explanation and we're back on track, but there have been occasions where a different perspective has saved the bacon of both myself and other docs I've known. This is especially true for seasoned and highly specialized ICU nurses (both pediatric and adult), oncology nurses, and obstetrics nurses. We're all human ... and humans make errors (at all levels of care). They watch my back. I watch theirs.

I hope I end up working with people like you then or at least that first 75%. If I only have personality conflicts with roughly 1 in 4 doctors I think I can make it work. Thank you for the inside perspective.

[clevergirl]

You need a third option.

[LulzSect©]

civil service tests is probably a better idea for someone with no job experience to land a city/govt job

[clevergirl]

I went into CS and that was even my MOS in some ways I excelled at it. However I was never driven or motivated or talented enough mathematically to really master it beyond a basic level. That held me back and contributed to complete burn out in 17 years with no real accomplishments to speak of. No advancement made in the field.

Nursing is brutally hard and I feel you need a better option just from cursory intuition.

You don't need a CS degree to build your own game or design your own website. I would only take the CS degree if you want to create hardware. Or build the engines that drive various aspects of software development. Interim you can get certification and go be a DB admin or something.
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I struggle with this too because for me it's Everquest>cooking>exercise>cleaning>gardening. I'm an OCD freak so cleaning is compulsory.

All the other stuff I am talented at (makeup, hair, conversation, exercise) don't translate well because I can't stand people in close proximity on a continual and daily basis. Otherwise I'd run an LGBTQIAN+ salon, spa, gym, and healing center + makeup boutique add on.

[Cecily]

Didn't know about that test. Is that like the ASVAB? Could be helpful, but I know I've tested to have a extreme affinity for "helping" and "thinking" careers in the past. Those two fields I mentioned seem like the most pragmatic and relevant to those categories I can go with. I really enjoy writing as well, but an English degree seems like financial seppuku. Comedy writing would be my absolute dream job, but don't think I'm consistently funny enough. I'd love to teach, and I'd do it well, but I hate the school system too much.

I think I going with my original gut instinct for psych nursing is making the most sense atm. It's a outlet for my need to help people. Money is not my end game. I want a few elective procedures and I have almost no desire for anything else. After that I just wanna spend my life helping to unfuck what life does to people.

Thanks for the thoughtful replies.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didn't know about that test. Is that like the ASVAB? Could be helpful, but I know I've tested to have a extreme affinity for "helping" and "thinking" careers in the past. Those two fields I mentioned seem like the most pragmatic and relevant to those categories I can go with. I really enjoy writing as well, but an English degree seems like financial seppuku. Comedy writing would be my absolute dream job, but don't think I'm consistently funny enough. I'd love to teach, and I'd do it well, but I hate the school system too much.

I think I going with my original gut instinct for psych nursing is making the most sense atm. It's a outlet for my need to help people. Money is not my end game. I want a few elective procedures and I have almost no desire for anything else. After that I just wanna spend my life helping to unfuck what life does to people.

Thanks for the thoughtful replies.

is teaching english internationally still a thing? i think you have a degree and that's all it used to require. gets around the rude american student issue.

chime in here if you know better folks.

[clevergirl]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

is teaching english internationally still a thing? i think you have a degree and that's all it used to require. gets around the rude american student issue.

chime in here if you know better folks.

Teaching in South Korea or some other non eurocountry isn't viable for out LGBT. It's even hard in places with good support and laws like UK or Germany.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by clevergirl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Teaching in South Korea or some other non eurocountry isn't viable for out LGBT. It's even hard in places with good support and laws like UK or Germany.

Yeaaaaa. Fuck being the trans ambassador of the US.