Project 2002 Plug

[burkemi5]

Yeah I mean, there's no rule lawyering, trainquest, GM crying, camp stealing, incessant trolling, etc, but they manage. Honestly, play on p02 if you want a classicish 3 boxing server that will go to PoP. Don't if you don't. Three boxing makes everquest a different experience. Personally, I'd never go back to single boxing, but many, even the majority of people I imagine, would never go to a boxing EQ server. Their population is just fine and will continue to be fine without having to advertise here.

[fryguy503]

Every server has had there fair share of drama. theirs was a large guild that couldn't hack it, so they jumped ship.

Allaclone has NEVER shown Detailed stats, period. Many of the GM's voted to never have allaclone.

The Player counter was broken when the codebase was revamped and many new EQEmu features were pulled in including the Telnet upgrades, which broke the websites player integration features. Those WERE fixed and many more enhancements were added.

The server is not perfect, but it is a fun server to play on. No one forces you guys to go there. Try it, If you do not like it, go somewhere else. The Dev's do their best to be transparent, Planes of Power should be releasing soon and many more revamps to fix bugs are being worked on. Join up in discord and have a chat (Discord link is at the top of the website).

Common Misconceptions:

All of the GM/Dev play in a single guild -- Incorrect: Of the top 5 guilds, I know of Devs in 4 of them. Ding, TU, Powerslave and BoN. with a Guide in Unity iirc.

>3 Boxing is not enforced -- Incorrect: I see a least a few times a week the world shaking and (Indication that a player has been suspended/banned. Most of the time the GM's will say what the reason was for.)

Content is Changed to make things easier for XXXX Guild -- Incorrect: GM's are very vocal about how they will change content if a Bug or era accurate data is brought forth and presented. Not just, "I totally remember XXXX Raid doing this and dropping that".

XXXX Staff members left because of a Database GM -- Incorrect: Much of the Dev/GM staff comes and goes through out the year. Some devs take extended breaks so they do not burn out. It is just how they work.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by fryguy503 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Incorrect: Of the top 5 guilds, I know of Devs in 4 of them. Ding, TU, Powerslave and BoN. with a Guide in Unity iirc.

Wait, the fact that not one but four of the project's coders are in guilds is supposed to be a selling point? Imagine if only Nilbog (let alone him and three other P99 developers) admitted that they played in Awakened (or any other guild): the entire server would have a conniption fit.

You being proud of the fact that four of the people who define the game have giant conflicts of interest should send any sane player running away.

[fryguy503]

More like, it ensures that one guild doesn't receive any gm help. Doesn't matter how anyone spins it. those who don't like the idea of the server will find ways to discredit it.

As I said to people, try it and form an opinion for yourself.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by fryguy503 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More like, it ensures that one guild doesn't receive any gm help. Doesn't matter how anyone spins it. those who don't like the idea of the server will find ways to discredit it.

As I said to people, try it and form an opinion for yourself.

I LOVE the idea of an emulated server that goes to PoP. If P02 was even half the server that P99 is, I'd have left here a long time ago. In other words, I have zero personal reasons to discredit it; if anything I have a bias towards wanting it to succeed ... but the server doesn't need me to discredit it, it does a fine job all on its own.

Do you remember the furor that's happened here every time P99 has had a bad GM (eg. Derubael)? Those "bad eggs" didn't even have access to the codebase, let alone check-in privileges, but they still shook some people's faith in the server. Meanwhile players on P02 are supposed to just trust that the very people writing the code (with far more power than any P99 GM) can stay neutral even as they pick teams and play in that code? On a server with just as much history of corruption as P99, if not moreso?

Again, it's nothing personal against P02: I just think that's an absolutely terrible way to run any server.

[Tollen]

So you expect people that run the sever never play?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Tollen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you expect people that run the sever never play?

Yeah, or at least never let anyone know they play. For all I know Nilbog could have been in my last group ... I mean, as far as I know he never plays, but he could. That gives the server the perception of fairness, which matters even more than actual fairness.

Plus, there are plenty of other EQ Emu servers devs can play on, so it's not like they can never play EQ again. It's just that they're gods in this world, and gods shouldn't need to slum it with the mortals ... or if they do, they should do it in a different form so the mortals don't think the gods are playing favorites.

[Secrets]

Originally Posted by Tollen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you expect people that run the sever never play?

It's one thing to be playing on the server you are working on. It's another to be part of the only powerguild on the server in a position to advantage the guild, and then actively participate in undermining other guilds.

That being said, let them have their playground. I'm sure some people enjoy playing the game like that or being the underdog guild on that kind of server, but it's not for me.

[Jhaerik]

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's one thing to be playing on the server you are working on. It's another to be part of the only powerguild on the server in a position to advantage the guild, and then actively participate in undermining other guilds.

That being said, let them have their playground. I'm sure some people enjoy playing the game like that or being the underdog guild on that kind of server, but it's not for me.

The server literally has the high end raid scene instanced.... there is no way to undermine anyone..

Exactly the p99 logic that turned me away.

Hell just compare the trash talk on p99 forums compared to p2002.

Simply put I'm quite happy the toxic people are here to belittle those offering people a more friendly option. It really just proves our point to the people that want something better.

[Llandris]

Originally Posted by Tollen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you expect people that run the sever never play?

Why yes, yes we do