Enchanter Epic - Any Advice?

[commongood]

Originally Posted by Nagoya [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...and to think this is considered one of the "easy-ish" epic is quite telling for a filthy casual like myself lol. what a crazy game we play [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's funny. I think I got my epic on live at some point during the end of velious. At that point I just strolled into Neriak and Cabalis and found both mobs up.

So in terms of how the game was on live back when epic 1.0s were still relevant I really think it was one of the easier ones... I frankly remember worrying much more about getting the head from the prince in Chardok and the drop from PoHate because those were raid targets. Verina and Vessel were bumps on the road that could be duo'd or 1-grouped at worst.

I think that's because the progression (an expansion per year) meant there just weren't THAT many encs. People weren't playing more than their one main character mostly and didn't have several 60s at that point because there was always the next expansion's bottleneck key quest to do (ST, VT and so on) to worry about and sink your time into on your one main character.

Here everyone eventually figures out that the ENC is just very overpowered and a lot of fun AND cheap to gear out comparatively speaking. And we have infinite time to play with and no more expansions coming out. And so the two bumps on the road become huge stumbling blocks due to their incredibly long windows and a somewhat steady (if inevitably decreasing) flow of competition.

[kjs86z]

Originally Posted by commongood [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's funny. I think I got my epic on live at some point during the end of velious. At that point I just strolled into Neriak and Cabalis and found both mobs up.

So in terms of how the game was on live back when epic 1.0s were still relevant I really think it was one of the easier ones... I frankly remember worrying much more about getting the head from the prince in Chardok and the drop from PoHate because those were raid targets. Verina and Vessel were bumps on the road that could be duo'd or 1-grouped at worst.

I think that's because the progression (an expansion per year) meant there just weren't THAT many encs. People weren't playing more than their one main character mostly and didn't have several 60s at that point because there was always the next expansion's bottleneck key quest to do (ST, VT and so on) to worry about and sink your time into on your one main character.

Here everyone eventually figures out that the ENC is just very overpowered and a lot of fun AND cheap to gear out comparatively speaking. And we have infinite time to play with and no more expansions coming out. And so the two bumps on the road become huge stumbling blocks due to their incredibly long windows and a somewhat steady (if inevitably decreasing) flow of competition.

Aye.

Guess I'll just wait to upgrade my Rod of Insid Glam to a Velk Spellbook, Shissar Focus Staff, or a Staff of the Silent Star some distant day from now!

[wwoneo]

Originally Posted by kjs86z [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hi all,

So I've decided its high time I start my enchanter epic.

- Vessel / Varina ...what is the best way to go about getting these 2 done? Park a lowly alt somewhere near their spawn points and check them at random times and beg/plead for your guild to come help kill them if they're up?


For the fourth piece:

This seems like a massive cock-block. I have the Essence of a Vampire from Hate. I'll be relying on my guild to get lucky with a Fear clear on the Wraith of a Shissir.

Is Ghost of Kindle (The Hole) as easy as it seems based on the wiki? I should be able to do this with a couple friends, right?

How tough is The Tangrin (Field of Bone)? Any advice / required numbers / where to check if he's up?

Dont give up. These are all soloable (except maybe wraith of shissir). You might need a few clickies (soulfire and wand of allure) but it is definitely soloable.

I have soloed Verina Tomb, Vessel, and Tangrin. If you're serious about soloing Vessel and Verina you'll need to keep your enchanter bound at their spawn points.

Wraith of shissir may be soloable if you can get into PoF after it has been cleared, you have Shissir timer, you camp near her spawn point inside firewall, and get lucky... maybe? Would be insanely risky though.

[commongood]

Originally Posted by wwoneo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dont give up. These are all soloable (except maybe wraith of shissir). You might need a few clickies (soulfire and wand of allure) but it is definitely soloable.

I have soloed Verina Tomb, Vessel, and Tangrin. If you're serious about soloing Vessel and Verina you'll need to keep your enchanter bound at their spawn points.

Wraith of shissir may be soloable if you can get into PoF after it has been cleared, you have Shissir timer, you camp near her spawn point inside firewall, and get lucky... maybe? Would be insanely risky though.

If you get vessel and verina everything else will come eventually. Shissar is only a problem if you are not in a guild that frequents Fear. There are plenty of guilds that compete for the golems and dracholich. Eventually you will be there after a CT pop. I see shissar going to alts / not being killed right away when guilds go for the raid targets in there.

I would have loved to have solo’d v&v, I presume clickies like wand of allure and cheal stuff would be needed?

[wwoneo]

Originally Posted by commongood [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you get vessel and verina everything else will come eventually. Shissar is only a problem if you are not in a guild that frequents Fear. There are plenty of guilds that compete for the golems and dracholich. Eventually you will be there after a CT pop. I see shissar going to alts / not being killed right away when guilds go for the raid targets in there.

I would have loved to have solo’d v&v, I presume clickies like wand of allure and cheal stuff would be needed?

I did have to use a reaper (cheal) clicky for vessel and verina. However, if luck is on your side you wouldnt need it for verina since she is slowable. You just have to mana drain the crap out of her and hope you land slow early.

[Triiz]

I'm sure VD and VT are both soloable with clickies, but if I were to ever go the socking their window route I wouldn't try soloing them without Puppet Strings. Between regular charm breaks and them chain dispelling, especially VT because Mana Sieving her will cause her to cast more dispells, it seems like the chance of charm breaking more than the 3 charges a Wand of Allure has is relatively high. You may get lucky and charm not break or be dispelled at all, or you might not.

If you just happen to be in Neriak/Cab and see them up then sure by all means try to solo them with what you have, but I can't imagine the feeling of crushing defeat after you waste multiple days or a week of your life and charm breaks 4 times instead of 3 so you die and some random guy gets VT at 10% HP and kills her while you loot your corpse.

[wwoneo]

Originally Posted by Triiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but I can't imagine the feeling of crushing defeat after you waste multiple days or a week of your life and charm breaks 4 times instead of 3 so you die and some random guy gets VT at 10% HP and kills her while you loot your corpse.

This happened to me my first VT attempt. Awakened got the VT when I wiped (they were on raid suspension at the time) a few years ago. It is heart breaking, but I was learning how to get her myself.

In response to the dispel mechanic... I've killed her 4 times now, and she never casted a single dispel in any of those fights, but I havent killed her in over 2 years. So unless they changed her dispel casting mechanic, I think its safe to assume that if she does dispel its RARE (especially after mana draining her).

Also, it's not as big of a time sink as you may think as long as you commit to it in the manner I did.
I kept my enchanter bound at Verina and kept a tracker there as well. I'd pop in every once in a while late at night when the server pop was relatively low. I'd also keep note of when she was in window. I did it in a more leisure style and I've seen her pop quite a few times. So its not as insanely difficult as people make it out to be as long as it is done properly...

That being said it did take me about 40 days to get mine of checking in at the camp at late night times and tracking her windows. I'm not the only enchanter who has killed her in this manner either. I learned it from others.

[Triiz]

Originally Posted by wwoneo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In response to the dispel mechanic... I've killed her 4 times now, and she never casted a single dispel in any of those fights, but I havent killed her in over 2 years. So unless they changed her dispel casting mechanic, I think its safe to assume that if she does dispel its RARE (especially after mana draining her).

I've never killed her personally so I can't say from my own experience, but I've seen 3 or 4 videos of her being killed on P99 and in all of them she cast dispel multiple times. I suppose if you were able to sieve her to 0 mana she wouldn't dispel, but Nullify Magic is only 50 mana so she'd have to be completely OOM not LOM.

There are old threads from early/mid 2015 about a change to how often all caster mobs cast dispell and people were complaining about it, that's more than 2 years ago though.

[commongood]

Killed her a few weeks ago. We were two shamans duo’ing her so it was slow going. She cast dispel 2-3 times fwiw

[Leiker]

Its not that bad if you have a lot of patience.
Make a level 1 char and park it at spawnpoint and check it everytime you log on and log off.

It will probably take months, but one day you will be lucky. Its good to have some friends/guildies on standby though.

Worked for me.