Regarding the new spell file and such. - Page 4

Chrushev · #1 03-14-2011, 02:44 AM

honestly i didnt even know about this. I always clicked spell in the book and on the bar like I did when i played on Live a decade ago....

chuck norris · #2 03-14-2011, 03:57 AM

This change was one of the worst decisions made thus far. Like many have stated it's impossible to bring this sever back to what it was like in 1999 and even if you could nobody wants to stare at a 640x480 spellbook for 35 levels.. People are here for the content of the world itself and to have fun with other people, not silly ui nostalgia. We came back because live was too big and empty and many of us didn't get to experience enough of EQ back in it's prime. I can remember when they did ui or gameplay updates I never thought "that was a bad idea." Even live UI right now is good it's all the new world content that killed it.

Many more people can appreciate that the devs will leave in some great ui changes while we get to experience classic content.

Lets take a small look at some of the things that are still here and some that are gone and see what the benefit of removing them is for the players.

/autofire - removed - benefit: now rangers can't be super OP with the awesome bows that are available, instead we can work with the CD bug that will reset your button CD if you hit it too fast.

Right click spell listing - removed - benefit: ?? we're closer to staring at the book for 35 levels but without killing the entire population.

Detrimental spells wearing off message - implemented - not 99 - benefit: self explanatory. great update

Pet buff window/buff wearing off message - removed - benefit:none Now without the spell explinations we just get to guess timers on every beneficial spell cast on any npc.

/melody - removed - benefit: ? 6 second durations are awesome to have to spam

new merchant windows- implimented -not 99 - benefit: players can arrange wares by name, price, or quantity. Great feature

There are many many more features to go through but the principle is the same. The devs keep removing good things about the game trying to get closer to classic to what end? We will (hopefully) never get back to that point, and if we did; it's my personal opinion that the server would be worse off for it. We aren't going to get more people here because the UI sucks more like classic. Furthermore there are many updates that can be "fixed" but were left in the game because it just makes it better and even the devs see that.

/rant off

disclaimer: I appreciate all work the devs/gm's do and am in no way discrediting them, only providing constructive criticism. lolz

zianlo1 · #3 03-14-2011, 04:50 AM

This is along the same lines as having the compass or even newbie area maps. It doesnt affect gameplay at all, its just a nicety to have.

Also, who are the dumbasses who add tags to these threads??? Most of them are stupid as shit.

Humerox · #4 03-14-2011, 05:55 AM

usually I'm pretty hardcore on "classiquese".

however...I gotta go wit bubbles on this one.

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runlvlzero · #5 03-14-2011, 09:46 AM

screw it i love not being able to PBAoE scarbs in EC according to the devs (super sarcasim because if they were serious about serious business they'd recode mob run speed from the ground up)... but not being able to right click spell mem is even better and a great substitute for changing core game mechanics that really need to be fixed.

Messianic · #6 03-14-2011, 10:12 AM

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screw it i love not being able to PBAoE scarbs in EC according to the devs (super sarcasim because if they were serious about serious business they'd recode mob run speed from the ground up)... but not being able to right click spell mem is even better and a great substitute for changing core game mechanics that really need to be fixed.

I love whiney, presumptuous idiots who insult people who provide a free service as "not doing it right."

Don't reproduce.

runlvlzero · #7 03-14-2011, 10:35 AM

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I love whiney, presumptuous idiots who insult people who provide a free service as "not doing it right."

Don't reproduce.

plz bannhammer us both messianic is the jesus love of all that is holy and righteous

Messianic you have no idea what your doing you just log on here to look for easy to critizize posts... was i nice consise and assertive no, and i don't feel like being so

but is my logic sound? yap

am i gonna argue it with you ... newp at least i didnt resort to name calling. "idiots"

never said the devs were idiots lol

**nilbog** · #8 03-14-2011, 10:37 AM

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screw it i love not being able to PBAoE scarbs in EC according to the devs (super sarcasim because if they were serious about serious business they'd recode mob run speed from the ground up)... but not being able to right click spell mem is even better and a great substitute for changing core game mechanics that really need to be fixed.

Yo brodog, you got that new code for us? Does it have anything to do with spells? That's right, this isn't a thread about runspeed dawg.

Weezard · #9 03-14-2011, 10:28 AM

I would just love to hear the reasoning behind removing the contextual spell menus. It just boggles my mind. Why remove it? Please don't respond with "it's not classic." You know that's an illogical response considering you left spellsets in, along with item linking, classic UIs, compasses, newbie zone maps, etc.

What was the point of this removal, seriously? Were you just bored and felt like riling up the casters? Is this some backhanded slap at overpowered pet classes (not me, I play a wiz)? I just don't get it. You had it in for so long, let people get accustomed to it, and then remove it to achieve what exactly?

I understand that this is your sandbox and we're all here enjoying the fact that you let us play in it, but don't whip sand in our eyes for no reason. I love this server, and love the fact that it's available and you guys work on it, but changes like this are just annoyances that seem to be made with zero logic behind them other than to incite some people.

Do us all a favor, including yourselves so you can stop dealing with threads like this, and change it back. Let's focus on content, the driving force behind this game, and let petty UI stuff alone.

Rael · #10 03-14-2011, 10:31 AM

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you left spellsets in, along with item linking, classic UIs, compasses, newbie zone maps, etc.

Those things are all hard coded into the game client, I'm sure they would remove them if they could. That said, I also think that removing right click->mem spells was a terrible idea.