Quest Issue: Ring of the Dead

[Alienorg]

the better question is if there is another item "locket of escape" that does the say thing why is this item so more unbalancing then that one and u are fine letting that in the game and clickable by anyone. u cant really say one is more unbalancing then the other when they do the same thing.

your undeniable proof isn't out there, we have sited all we can and as it isnt undeniable it is from more then one source. And as long as u make it nodrop and take out the quest as some point. it fixes your unbalancing problem. Of course there will be more rings out then on live, as all nerfed items as we all know about them and go after them.

[Arkis]

Originally Posted by Alienorg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the better question is if there is another item "locket of escape" that does the say thing why is this item so more unbalancing then that one and u are fine letting that in the game and clickable by anyone. u cant really say one is more unbalancing then the other when they do the same thing.

your undeniable proof isn't out there, we have sited all we can and as it isnt undeniable it is from more then one source. And as long as u make it nodrop and take out the quest as some point. it fixes your unbalancing problem. Of course there will be more rings out then on live, as all nerfed items as we all know about them and go after them.

Now, i've only just now discovery the quest (didn't even know it existed until the recent update). But supposedly, it's unbalancing because of the fact that it can be recharged easily for 10 gp according to:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/q...98056860526827

So yes. It is much more unbalanced.

[Azzbad]

Originally Posted by Arkis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now, i've only just now discovery the quest (didn't even know it existed until the recent update). But supposedly, it's unbalancing because of the fact that it can be recharged easily for 10 gp according to:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/q...98056860526827

So yes. It is much more unbalanced.

As opposed to having someone vendor recharge your locket of escape for a few hundred pp? I dont know the exact buyback but if its under 1k for the recharge (buying both) then its nothing as well. Both imbalanced, both nerfed/removed, both more abundant on this server like guises, manastones, rubicite, etc. Should follow the timeline with no drop and quest removal however with the proof provided it should be an equivalent to locket.

[nilbog]

Comparable to locket?

Locket of Escape.. drops uncommonly, for a limited time.. from a rare spawn level 38 npc, at the bottom of a dungeon in Kunark.

Ring of the Dead.. was* questable, for a limited time, from a npc that is up 100% the time, and needs THEX MALLETS.

Additionally, everyone here knows that locket of escape could be used for bind affinity. That's.. the way it's always been.

Now I'm being asked for a Ring of the Dead, which I bet 99% of you didn't even know existed, to be equally as strong, recharged for 10gp, and will allow melee to bind anywhere a caster can, as long as they have 10gp and some faction, forever.

That.. is not comparable, and is the reason I asked for undeniable proof.

[Arkis]

Originally Posted by Azzbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As opposed to having someone vendor recharge your locket of escape for a few hundred pp? I dont know the exact buyback but if its under 1k for the recharge (buying both) then its nothing as well. Both imbalanced, both nerfed/removed, both more abundant on this server like guises, manastones, rubicite, etc. Should follow the timeline with no drop and quest removal however with the proof provided it should be an equivalent to locket.

Was going to say something, but Nilbog covers it all ^.^

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Azzbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As opposed to having someone vendor recharge your locket of escape for a few hundred pp? I dont know the exact buyback but if its under 1k for the recharge (buying both) then its nothing as well. Both imbalanced, both nerfed/removed, both more abundant on this server like guises, manastones, rubicite, etc. Should follow the timeline with no drop and quest removal however with the proof provided it should be an equivalent to locket.

Vendor recharge already tested. It is just over 10k FYI.

Asher

[Teeroyoyort]

The faction work to aquire this is reasonable. The faction work required to recharge it, takes even longer. Thank goodness i have a dark elf mask to help aid me in faction work. However most of the server won't have those luxuries. I know Myuharin in our guild (ogre sk) had to work his faction considerably longer. We'll both need to do more work just to be able to recharge it.

[Tobius]

The thing is, What about those of us who want to get the ring fixed, and use it in time to bind in timorous deep.

Even if we can find your "undeniable proof" what if we cannot find it in time to bind in timorous deep?

We will have missed our window, and that doesn't seem fair, wheres the trust man. Could you not nerf all the rings already in possession, "some people being bound somewhere kind of convinient untill they eventually get rebound somewhere" is not going to break the game.

[Lazortag]

I stumbled upon a discussion on the "website that shall not be named" (eqclassic - oops) where they very liberally discuss it being used by monks, paladins, warrios, etc.. that's not proof but at least some indication that some people remember it that way! (some people who have no stake in it either way)

(here: http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/view...t=2075&p=32436)

[uygi]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I stumbled upon a discussion on the "website that shall not be named" (eqclassic - oops) where they very liberally discuss it being used by monks, paladins, warrios, etc.. that's not proof but at least some indication that some people remember it that way! (some people who have no stake in it either way)

(here: http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/view...t=2075&p=32436)

Total conjecture [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]