Merriam-Webster Word of the Year 2017

[loramin]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if ever there is to be equality we must first acknowledge disparity and only thereafter may we celebrate diversity.

Originally Posted by kb2005 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't do that if you don't acknowledge that differences exist.

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

which school of feminism is it that says the sexes are identical?

i'd love to know

Exactly. Feminism means equal treatment, not "pretend both genders are identical". Now to be fair:

Feminism = equal treatment for all genders ... which does not mean pretending that the inherent biological differences between those genders do not exist

doesn't fit well on a bumper sticker or protest sign, so I can see how that might lead to confusion.

However, you will not find a sane feminist anywhere who says you should ignore biological differences. Just take the issue of public bathrooms: men move through them faster because of their biology and the magic technology of urinals. Feminists want more female public bathrooms to account for the biological differences. They don't want an equal number of bathrooms, with urinals in both.

Same thing with maternity leave/paternity leave. No feminist is saying "men have to push a baby out, they need time off". They're just saying "hey, there's a lot more to this whole baby-rearing thing than just the 'pushing out' part, and men should get the same opportunity for involvement in that as women".

[JurisDictum]

You guys realize that younger Millennials and Gen Z are all basically socially retarded, right? Socializing is scary stuff -- for an elite few these days. Most of it is phone text BS.

[Nexii]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

all praise be unto those ideologies which disparage their charges [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the most offensive aspect of the contemporary practice of feminism is the implicit assertion that gender equality necessitates women be more like men. if ever there is to be equality we must first acknowledge disparity and only thereafter may we celebrate diversity.

And the corollary to that is that transgender shouldn't exist.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Same thing with maternity leave/paternity leave. No feminist is saying "men have to push a baby out, they need time off". They're just saying "hey, there's a lot more to this whole baby-rearing thing than just the 'pushing out' part, and men should get the same opportunity for involvement in that as women".

What they do in Sweden is give father only-leave to encourage dads to spend time raising the kids (instead of the mother sometimes).

They understand if they want an equality-based society they need to subsidize that.

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In America, we talk equality...or we talk traditionally family values. But when push comes to shove -- the market takes precedence over either one. We don't use the government to support equality or the traditional family. We just let the market pay women less because they have to take time off to have/raise kids. We just let men pull ahead and don't encourage them to help with child rearing. We also don't give mothers checks for having children like in Germany. This encourages them to stay home and have kids instead of working for a more traditional society.

[Nexii]

Originally Posted by Kaight [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This one has never played on Phinny, Agnarr, etc.

I stopped because creeps be creepin. Might start again soon, every once in a while. But I've been saying that for about a year so don't trust a word I say (LIKE ALL WOMEN, AMIRITE?)

Ironic isn't it given the original post

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Kaight [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This one has never played on Phinny, Agnarr, etc.

I stopped because creeps be creepin. Might start again soon, every once in a while.

What's this mean? ^

If I am right, does this mean dudes pestered you to the point you no longer wanted to log in? That kind of creepin?

If correct, maybe make a character and play it secretly never use voice on that toon and don't tell people who you are. Meet new people, establish new relationships and enjoy p99 whenever you feel like it without any weirdos bothering you.

When people ask "who are you?" Tell them, "I am no one."

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Nexii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the corollary to that is that transgender shouldn't exist.

no, that is not the case in the least ^^ it is no more reasonable to argue that differences in general propensity are absolute than it is to argue that deviations preclude the existence of a general propensity. The idea that "some women are more aggressive than average man" does nothing to refute the idea that "men are in generally more aggressive than women." Just the same the idea that "men are generally more agressive than women" does not neccisitate that "all men are more aggressive than all women."

the bell curves do not align, but they do overlap. what is offensive is suggesting that more women should force themselves into the area of overlap with the male spectrum. the focus should be on promoting the value of femininity rather than asserting that women are equally capable of expressing masculinity and thereby demanding it of them.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What they do in Sweden is give father only-leave to encourage dads to spend time raising the kids (instead of the mother sometimes).

They understand if they want an equality-based society they need to subsidize that.

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In America, we talk equality...or we talk traditionally family values. But when push comes to shove -- the market takes precedence over either one. We don't use the government to support equality or the traditional family. We just let the market pay women less because they have to take time off to have/raise kids. We just let men pull ahead and don't encourage them to help with child rearing. We also don't give mothers checks for having children like in Germany. This encourages them to stay home and have kids instead of working for a more traditional society.

Take the WE out of your post and replace it with I.

None of what you say is relevant in my life at all.

[Mead]

Originally Posted by Kaight [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I stopped because creeps be creepin.

This is what you need to start a thread about. Tis the season.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What they do in Sweden is give father only-leave to encourage dads to spend time raising the kids (instead of the mother sometimes).

They understand if they want an equality-based society they need to subsidize that.

Attachment 9189

In America, we talk equality...or we talk traditionally family values. But when push comes to shove -- the market takes precedence over either one. We don't use the government to support equality or the traditional family. We just let the market pay women less because they have to take time off to have/raise kids. We just let men pull ahead and don't encourage them to help with child rearing. We also don't give mothers checks for having children like in Germany. This encourages them to stay home and have kids instead of working for a more traditional society.

this somewhat alludes to the gender wage gap, where there are two arguments talking past each other.

1. equal pay for the same work. i think this is law in most of the west.
2. an equal share of the wealth generation between the sexes, in a broad societal sense.

Most agree with the first, though there is an argument for the second in addressing declining birth rates among certain demographics.