Why is it so hard to get a group in Old Sebilis?

[Twochain]

Do people often find themselves being "looked down on" in Seb? I love playing with newer players in Seb, or ALS players. I love showing people the ropes, as Seb is my favorite zone in any mmo. The only time a "new" player would drive me nuts in a group, is if like, a monk said they know how to pull king and don't. Or if they just won't listen to instructions/are unresponsive. Other than that, it's all gravy! I'm surprised to hear people have issues there.

[TheOutdoorNerd]

Usually when I got to Seb, it's to duo with my chanter with my cleric friend. Sometimes it's fun to just duo, but more often then not we'll pick up random people LFG if there's a camp open. We don't have any problem inviting necros.

Like others have said, it's more of the quality of the person joining us rather than whatever class they are. We've even picked up more than one necro. They can mez and help keep the camp locked down, twitch the cleric (or chanter) and otherwise do some great DPS as long as their pet behaves.

So it's kind of a unique perspective that a cleric/chanter duo can do so much with just a duo that everything else is gravy, and everything stacks with that. Last time there, my friend swapped out his cleric for his warrior and we picked up a cleric, and she won the roll for a heiro cloak.

That's another thing: yeah there's lots of friend groups and duo/trios of people who mostly just want loot, but some friend groups are happy to roll for loot with random cool people. Not everyone is just out for themselves.

Sometimes we get that rare douche, or the group doesn't click, or the stars just don't align, and we'll go back to our duo with no hard feelings. So it's nice to have that foundation of having a few friends who have known each other from live in the early 2000s.

I just got my necro to 50 with the last of the bonus XP! Honestly, necro is the class I play most of the time when I don't feel like grouping. It's not that I'm against grouping him, it's just that the XP comes so easy, I don't really try that hard to find a group. A necro is almost a group unto himself.

[spectrefax]

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm guildless and most of my leveling friends have quit. I never have an issue finding a group in seb. I think it's your class, not some elite conspiracy agenda.

Yeah, I suspect class perception is playing a roll also.

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't mean that as a general diss on necromancers, either. Just how the majority of eqers perceive them in group settings. It sucks cause I've seen some balling necros pulling off some neat utility tricks and great dps in groups.

Agree, it does suck. Because of how necros work with all the health/mana juggling and such, a well-played necro makes a strong group much stronger by a noticeable margin (but, I'm a little biased, lol).

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is and always is and always has been hit or miss LFG in Seb. A big thing to consider is that moving around in Seb is difficult and people are lazy. That's where rogues shine, but there's often an over saturation of them when I'm there. Most groups can use 3 dps. Other roles are almost always a single slot in the group. If you're not needed to replace one of those single slots you're not getting invited. P99 mentality is 100% efficiency when you're dealing with experienced players.

I suspect you are correct as well. The one time I was able to get a group in Seb, was when I managed to go deeper into the dungeon and bump into a group that already had an open slot, but wasn't actively looking--likely due to it not being worth the trouble to clear a path to pick up someone LFG at the door.

[TheOutdoorNerd]

Definitely approach every group you see and ask if they need one more, even if you count 6 players. You never know, someone could be getting ready to leave, or decide to leave and say "hey guys you should take that necro" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[branamil]

It’s a shame Sebilis is way, way overpacked with extremely desirable loot. You can’t walk 10 feet without some named dropping something good. If only they had spread some of that out to the other tragically under used zones like the Hole.

Anyways, because it’s so profitable people have a pretty clinical and soulless method to farming it. And they have been farming it for 7 years and they don’t have much patience for helping new people in my experience.

[Ikon]

Originally Posted by branamil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s a shame Sebilis is way, way overpacked with extremely desirable loot. You can’t walk 10 feet without some named dropping something good. If only they had spread some of that out to the other tragically under used zones like the Hole.

Anyways, because it’s so profitable people have a pretty clinical and soulless method to farming it. And they have been farming it for 7 years and they don’t have much patience for helping new people in my experience.

Yeah reading some of the replies here I feel embarrassed for the posters; hoping that they're early teens but knowing they're in fact adults.

If you think you're being "charitable" allowing someone into your group you're probably one of those people permanently planted in Seb denying others the ability to experience the content themselves.

If you don't want them in your group just say so, the lame excuse of "they might be lootwhores", " scrubs", "an RBG might drop and we might have to share it" is stupid.

[Faiding]

How to P99:

1. Decide what class you want to play
2. Start a Cleric, Enchanter or Shaman and level to 60
3. Make friends
4. Re-roll as the class you chose in Step 1

[zaneosak]

Originally Posted by Buriedpast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because you call it old sebils. Not Seb. I won’t group with that kind of lunatic.

It was always OS on my server back in the day! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tuurin]

Originally Posted by Forum Cuck [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

maybe its because you are bad

at 56 you should have monk pet and can solo

seb on blue is packed and you should have single pulls

Of course he "can solo"- lrn 2 reed. He's a necro. That's not the point. He's asking about PUG viability in Seb, which most have picked up on. Some people like to do more than just grind out exp in the most extremely efficient manner. Like grouping for example.

And no, pet tanking with monk pet is not being "good" either. Do you even play a necro?

[Spyder73]

Not sure why anyone would ever pick Monk pet over Rogue pet...for anything... It has 300 extra life and does the exact same damage but instead of backstabbing for 170 it kicks for 60. Emissary of Thule at least has a substantial HP advantage and life taps for more. Plus the fashion quest aspect is unmatched in all of EQ