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Old 07-21-2017, 05:31 PM
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So you feel that people can't suffer pain from abuse/past abuse rendering them with such deep feelings of despair and anguish that they have thoughts of suicide even as adults?
Sure, people can suffer and have deep feelings, as you say.

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His monetary worth had nothing to do with what he dealt with internally, no idea why you brought that up. I guess in your mind, you envy his perceived wealth and feel angry and bitter he threw it all away out of his selfishness?
I didn't bring that up. You just did though.
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Old 07-21-2017, 05:32 PM
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also lhance, if someone really do understand that they death going to destroy others and they still kill theyself because some other deep pain, then they really is selfish. that dont trivialize they pain, but they are placing they own interest above others. i just don't believe that most people do that. most have whatever pain they have and don't believe they death gonna affect anyone in any significant or irreparable way.
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Old 07-21-2017, 05:44 PM
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also lhance, if someone really do understand that they death going to destroy others and they still kill theyself because some other deep pain, then they really is selfish. that dont trivialize they pain, but they are placing they own interest above others. i just don't believe that most people do that. most have whatever pain they have and don't believe they death gonna affect anyone in any significant or irreparable way.

Suicide isn't selfish. That's so fucking ridiculous. Nobody has any idea what someone is dealing with, or thinking, leading up to committing suicide. It's all speculation. You expecting someone else to hang around when they're miserable and would rather kill themselves, just so you're not crushed, is what's selfish. I can't stand that perception on suicide. IT'S THEIR LIFE / THEIR CHOICE. The only selfish motive is the one that expects them to stick around FOR YOU or SOMEONE ELSE.


Ps. Regardless I'm sad to see Chester go. He was iconic for kids of my generation.
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Old 07-21-2017, 05:49 PM
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Suicide isn't selfish. That's so fucking ridiculous. You expecting someone else to hang around when they're miserable and would rather kill themselves, just so you're not crushed, is what's selfish. I can't stand that perception on suicide. IT'S THEIR LIFE / THEIR CHOICE. The only selfish motive is the one that expects them to stick around FOR YOU or SOMEONE ELSE.


Ps. Regardless I'm sad to see Chester go. He was iconic for kids of my generation.
you need to learn to set aside you feelings at least temporarily if you ever wanna learn. you done this before too. go back through all my posts or even just the one you quoted and you see you being dumb
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Old 07-21-2017, 05:53 PM
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IT'S THEIR LIFE / THEIR CHOICE. The only selfish motive is the one that expects them to stick around FOR YOU or SOMEONE ELSE.
Those damn children. How dare they depend on their father!
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Old 07-21-2017, 05:54 PM
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also lhance, if someone really do understand that they death going to destroy others and they still kill theyself because some other deep pain, then they really is selfish. that dont trivialize they pain, but they are placing they own interest above others. i just don't believe that most people do that. most have whatever pain they have and don't believe they death gonna affect anyone in any significant or irreparable way.
No one knows exactly what the person is aware of when they commit suicide except for that person so hard to theorize on this.

I also think that any thought about their own death and how it will affect others is so far out of their mind it's just not something they thinking about.

It has to be some massive anguish and sadness for a person to reach a point where they mentally circumvent the innate survival instincts we are born with to end their own life.

This is not being selfish, this is about being at a point where they honestly feel they better off dead.

It's not about others, how it will make others feel, it's all about ending a pain that none of us can fathom or else we'd have done or tried to do what Chester did.
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Old 07-21-2017, 05:55 PM
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Havent listened to Linkin Park in probably 15 years but sucks to hear Chester off'd himself
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Old 07-21-2017, 06:07 PM
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Troll detected.
I started the entire thread...That makes me a troll.. Yup. Im pissed, because of all the hateful, poorly thought out comments.
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Old 07-21-2017, 06:10 PM
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Maybe you should gain some empathy and realize that people deal with tragedy in different ways. ie making light of it

Dipshit.
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Old 07-21-2017, 06:12 PM
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