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07-12-2017, 02:24 PM
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having never played EQ at all? Hardest class would be necromancer because 1) reagents 2) would play the class wrong (Doting everything) 3) Mental struggle of watching mana regen w/o clarity 3) learning to charm w/o the tool kit of chanter
I doubt he would make it to level 10. Don't think it would be enchanter...By the time he was high enough level to be expected to be a respectable mezzer, he would have probably figured it out. No matter what some of you want to think this game is not difficult... 12 year old me figured it out pretty easily without knowing anything about EQ. | ||
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07-12-2017, 04:13 PM
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07-12-2017, 04:30 PM
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People that think bard is easy group with some terrible bards. It's vastly different and more active than most other classes to play one at a high level. It's not easy just because you "can AFK manasong for exp".
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07-13-2017, 11:35 AM
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Like many people have stated in other words, a lot of this has to do with a few key variables:
1. Is this person going to be soloing, or are they are going to be grouping? Or some of both? 2. Is this person starting 100% from scratch, with absolutely no gear at all? Or are they at least going to be given some basic armor/weapons and stuff? Or will they be a full twink? 3. What level of skill/adaptability does this person have? Is this person your grandma, who has never played a video game in her life? Or is this person a long-time gamer? If this person is planning on soloing, and will have absolutely no gear to start out with at all, I'd say most difficult would be Rogue, then Warrior, then maybe Paladin or Ranger. If this person is planning on soloing, and will be fully twinked out, then Warrior might actually be one of the easiest classes to pick up on, but even easier long-term will be someone with more survival tools like a shadowknight or monk, who also are relatively easy to pick up on. A fully twinked int/wis caster class will still get steamrolled if they are having a hard time on the uptake with all the mechanics. If this person is planning on grouping, and will have absolutely no gear to start out with, the easiest would be any class with a very straightforward/simple role, like a healer or nuker - they can just stand/sit there and do their one job. Hardest might be a pulling class, CC class, or possibly even tanking class if they are less savvy with games. If this person is planning on grouping, and will be twinked out, then just about any class will probably work, but I'd still say a CC/utility role is probably the hardest for a newbie, and any DPS is probably the easiest, with maybe Mage at the top of that list. Finally, if you are planning on Duoing with this person, I'd suggest you (the more savvy person) be an enchanter, and the newbie friend guy be a Druid.
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07-13-2017, 10:58 PM
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1. I'd imagine he will be soloing and grouping. I'll be playing with him whenever possible but I'm sure he'll play on his own too and group with other people. 2. He'll be starting with some gear, but nowhere near full twink. We'll set him up with probably the equivalent of Banded or maybe slightly better depending on the class and a decent weapon. 3. He's a long-time gamer, very smart dude, definitely adaptable. He's already chosen Bard, but if that doesn't work out, what's your recommendation? | |||
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07-14-2017, 10:38 AM
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There are many ways a bard can solo, and they also offer a heck of a lot to a group. They really are an extremely versatile class, which is why I'm maining one now. Here's a short list of some ways for him to learn how to level: 1. The simple solo "Tank n' Spank". Have him learn to twist 4 of the most effective songs while tanking and fighting mobs. I'd suggest twisting Hymn of Restoration, Selo's Consonant Chain, one of the haste songs (self or party, depending), and then fill in the blank with maybe a dot song or something. Just be careful with AE dot songs pulling adds. If he's got banded+ gear and a decent weapon or 2, he can do this very simple method of solo exping for quite some time, or even possibly tanking in groups. 2. Fear Kiting (level 26+). Have him learn to twist Selo's Consonant Chain, Angstlich's Appalling Screech, one of the haste songs, and either heal or dot song, depending on need. *Advanced method: have him make a hotkey that does both Angstlich's Appalling Screech and Instill Doubt, just in case he'd get a resist. 3. Chant Kiting. A very non-glamorous way of leveling, you can simply equip drums and run away while dotting a single mob with Fufil's Curtailing Chant (level 30), Tuyen's Chant of Flame (38), and Tuyen's Chant of Frost (level 46). 4. AoE Kiting (also known as "swarm" kiting on P99, but true swarm kiting was different on Live). This is a bit advanced, but if you go digging on Youtube, you can find some tutorials on how to do this. Essentially, you grab a train of mobs that all run the same speed, then kill them all at once by playing Point Blank AoE dot songs while strafe-running in a circle just barely outside of the mobs' melee range, but inside the range of the dot song. Again, this is more advanced, and you WILL die learning how to do this, but it is literally the best solo exp I know of in the game. I got 120% (yes, 1.2 levels) in a single pull in Firiona Vie one time. 5. Charm kiting. I'm definitely not an expert on this, I just haven't done my research or tried it much yet. It can be good exp in areas where mobs aren't all that resistant, but do a lot of damage really fast, simply because they'll be doing that damage to each other really fast. There can also be many different combinations of these things, like charm kiting 2 evenly matched mobs until they are low, then chanting them the rest of the way down to finish them off, etc. However, if bard just seems super overwhelming, I'd recommend going druid. They can heal, they can port, they can dot, they can nuke, they can quad kite, and eventually once he's high level, he can easily power-level any alt of yours [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].
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07-14-2017, 01:36 PM
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07-14-2017, 02:16 PM
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Start with mob #1, Chant dot Mob #1 with all 3 chants, Charm Mob #1, send Mob #1 to fight Mob #2 Start Chant DOTing Mob #2 with all 3 chants when charm breaks, charm Mob #2 and send it on Mob #1, and then start re-Chanting mob #1, recharm mob #1 when charm breaks, repeat. This will make bard charm killing close to twice as fast and uses a lot less mana since your total number of charms per fight will be a lot less. Jboots/Sow Pots make it a lot easier so you don't have to keep selo's up, but it's doable without. Obviously works best 46+ when bard has all 3 Chants available to them. | |||
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07-14-2017, 10:21 AM
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The hardest class to play in the game is the one you know nothing about.
for me it was wizard if i known i was going to die 5-6 times a night or more. I think i wouldn't had done it. but now that he is over 50 we cut that down to 2 times a night. this was a struggle for the dude.
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