America - Episode IV: A New Hope

[Krimsin]

Originally Posted by DetroitVelvetSmooth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean Republicans that are trying to separate themselves from the backward social planks of the Republican platform while supporting the backward economic ones?

Well DVS I don't really know where you stand on anything. So far you've managed to hurl insults without any shred of logic or constructive thought.

So enlighten me, explain what "forward" thinking economic planks you're proposing.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

I'm certainly redistributionist in where I think economic policy should be headed, given where the resources of the nation have been flowing (generally) for the last 90 years. I think one of the most important things we need to do is level the playing field in education and in health care. Children born in lower class families (the number of which continues to increase) should have as much invested in their education as the far less numerous privileged children. The health-care debate is obv complex, but few would argue that it is fine the way it is, and that the (once again, growing) lower class is not getting affordable, comprehensive medical care.

There are fewer and fewer "big winners" in the American economy, and more overworked and underpaid families decade by decade. Though the rich of the country feel they deserve their money because they worked hard for it, it is not as if they are working harder than people I work with in the restaurant industry, or any other blue-collar job. The issue of how the government spends this tax money is also important here. Have you ever looked at where exactly the tax money goes? Here, at least, Libertarians have a point. It is being mismanaged, for sure. However, that is a reason to increase transparency and aggressively reform spending, not a reason to deem government spending of any type unnecessary. In the libertarians' world, the power of those who control large swaths of capital would be EVEN MORE unchecked.

The founders of the republic, by the way, had no contemporaneous analog for the kind of wealth disparity that exists today. Let that sink in before you make claims about their intentions vis-a-vis economic regulations, tariffs, income tax etc...

Another thing, if you make more than 200,000 dollars a year, and you think you "totally deserve it", you better be doing something spectacular with your work. Otherwise you're overpaid and might want to take a look in the mirror. By the way, looking the right way, saying the right things, and knowing the right people is not spectacular. Its tragically average. But the pay is good, amirite?

I'm not anti-wealth or anything, I'm trying to get rich just like everyone else. But these people that think that they are special and deserve 10x more than others, just because they have in fact obtained it, are the worst people ever. (Trust me, I worked as a landscaper in Hinsdale, IL for a year in college, and these people think they're pretty great.) And if you elect libertarians its gonna get worse. If people make tons of cash, good for them. The country they live in has lots of problems and is gonna need that cash to solve them.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by DetroitVelvetSmooth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another thing, if you make more than 200,000 dollars a year, and you think you "totally deserve it", you better be doing something spectacular with your work. Otherwise you're overpaid and might want to take a look in the mirror. .

Lawl.

[Starklen]

The issue is a lack of eclecticism and pragmatism in how we contend with problems and try to optimize the country. A lot of people struggle with divorcing their preconceived notions, belief systems, and emotions from the discussion and the decision making process.

[Hasbinbad]

http://www.truthandpolitics.org/top-rates.php
91% in the top bracket through the beginning of the 60s.
Ya know, stuff like "going to the moon," and "inventing the computer," stuff like "a national network of interstate highways," and "the baby boom of atomic families complete with white picket fences."
Nothing important, ya know? Let's just get our money from poor people!! That sounds brilliant!!

[Slathar]

hey guys heres my impression of republicans:

"fuck you, i got mine. fuck fags, minorities. praise jesus. pro death penalty and anti abortion *eats 19 big macs and loses arm due to type 2 diabetes* FREEEEDOM"

did i do it right?

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Originally Posted by Slathar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hey guys heres my impression of republicans:

"fuck you, i got mine. fuck fags, minorities. praise jesus. pro death penalty and anti abortion *eats 19 big macs and loses arm due to type 2 diabetes* FREEEEDOM"

did i do it right?

Did you post that while in line for your welfare check? lmao. Here is my impression of Democrats:

I hate people that make money. I hate people that work hard. I hate people that have more than me...even though they earned it and I didn't. I hate white people and people who believe in God. I just want to sit around on my lazy ass and drink and smoke and collect welfare so that I can spend it on the important things in life like cell phones and clothes and an Escalade. I mean why should I actually take responsibility for anything in my life...I AM THE VICTIM HERE ! ! I don't care if my kids run around naked in the streets. If they want nice things, they should sign up for their own welfare. I love to blame everyone for all of my problems cause it makes me feel better than actually having to get off my fat lazy ass and do something about it.


Pretty good Huh?

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Originally Posted by Boggwin Bramblefoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you post that while in line for your welfare check?... lazy ass ... drink ... smoke ... collect welfare ... cell phones ... Escalade

Originally Posted by DetroitVelvetSmooth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Republican Party = Thinly veiled homophobia, racism, religious fundamentalism, jingoism, old white people, hillbillies, the ultra-wealthy, the ultra-poor, trickle-down economics, relaxed regulations on industry, isolationism, Fox News, Glenn Beck, pick-em-up trucks, decreased transparency in gov't, old white people, creationism, Bill Kristol, wildly out of control military spending, anti-intellectualism, free-reign for financial fat cats, Blackwater etc., and whatever policies ensure the continued acceleration of the class division that will define America in the 21st century if we aren't careful. Also, list prestigious centers of learning in blue states vs. red states. And whats the secret of their success? Same as Wal-Mart - they promise to charge you less.

Your political beliefs boil down to thinking that all poor people have to do is "work harder" when in fact, the lower class works extemely hard, just for very little money. You have a warped perception of reality and are a bad person. Keep attending teaparty rallies, watching fox news and screaming "MINE! NO! MINE!" when tax season rolls around. Idiot.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Originally Posted by DetroitVelvetSmooth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your political beliefs boil down to thinking that all poor people have to do is "work harder" when in fact, the lower class works extemely hard, just for very little money. You have a warped perception of reality and are a bad person. Keep attending teaparty rallies, watching fox news and screaming "MINE! NO! MINE!" when tax season rolls around. Idiot.

Well then what you are saying is that the lower class is stupid. Why would you work so hard for such pathetic results? That does not make sense. Maybe they should go get a degree and make more money. And don't say they can't. We have set up so many programs where the underprivileged can get free college if the want it. Problem is they don't want it. It requires too much effort on their part. They would rather complain about being poor and ask the govt. to give them more of other peoples hard earned money.

Plus I am not a tea party member, so nice try...lol.

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by Boggwin Bramblefoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you post that while in line for your welfare check? lmao. Here is my impression of Democrats:

I hate people that make money. I hate people that work hard. I hate people that have more than me...even though they earned it and I didn't. I hate white people and people who believe in God. I just want to sit around on my lazy ass and drink and smoke and collect welfare so that I can spend it on the important things in life like cell phones and clothes and an Escalade. I mean why should I actually take responsibility for anything in my life...I AM THE VICTIM HERE ! ! I don't care if my kids run around naked in the streets. If they want nice things, they should sign up for their own welfare. I love to blame everyone for all of my problems cause it makes me feel better than actually having to get off my fat lazy ass and do something about it.


Pretty good Huh?

look at this fat hill billy and his racism lawl. very christian values as well. have fun dying of a coronary (aren't you like 40? gross)