Red Renaissance

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Squire [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While I support your enthusiasm and also want to see red get the development attention it needs I think you're going about this the wrong way. There are very real and legal/contractual reasons why we cannot essentially purchase a product from rogean and Co, nor can we necessarily donate to get what we want.

What needs to be demonstrated is that there is a large and interested community of about 300 people who want a red server option that perhaps do not current play at all. That is misconception number 1, that red failed because nobody wants it. The second misconception that needs addressed is the meme that a red failed exclusively due to community toxicity and not due to developmental sabotage at worst or neglect at best.

No dialog with staff or the blue community will be productive until these can be established.

With that said I sincerely doubt we will be the a new red server, due to whatever obligations the staff has to daybreak games, at the moment the best can we do is lobby for a reboot or augmentation of the existing server.

Daybreak has stopped Rogean from creating new servers.

The only way to create new servers is if someone else did it and Rogean was nice enough to share his code.

If Rogean shared his code and other servers opened he would lose a lot of people and it would damage his ego. I truly believe he would rather Project 1999 be mediocre than allow other servers to open and be successful.

[Doctor Jeff]

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[Mafakka]

Don't you realize that less than 1/7th of the population played on PvP servers on live? The numbers are pretty similar on p99 for the same reasons.

[Squire]

Originally Posted by Mafakka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't you realize that less than 1/7th of the population played on PvP servers on live? The numbers are pretty similar on p99 for the same reasons.

Nobody is suggesting the pvp population would be as robust as Blue but it's evident that things like experience rate, pvp level range, etc have had dramatic impact on population size.

[Gustoo]

I think the PvP on eq with item loot combined with more challenging world environment offers a unique experience other current games do not.

Blue experience isn't quite as novel. The fact that many players never played PvP is reason for them to come over and see eq in a new light. Game is no longer just about mana and hp...you get to look at the game completely differently.

So there is no reason red game wouldn't bring decent numbers but it's a fairly neglected sesspool right now. Transfer toons off and roll it back to classic and add item loot. Then everyone has reason to play.

[Gustoo]

I think the PvP on eq with item loot combined with more challenging world environment offers a unique experience other current games do not.

Blue experience isn't quite as novel. The fact that many players never played PvP is reason for them to come over and see eq in a new light. Game is no longer just about mana and hp...you get to look at the game completely differently.

So there is no reason red game wouldn't bring decent numbers but it's a fairly neglected sesspool right now. Transfer toons off and roll it back to classic and add item loot. Then everyone has reason to play.

If it was classic this would happen:

People would play to get out of stagnant velious era where all cool old world zones are obsolete.

I would log on and slowly level up a wizard to level 12 probably take me a month at 1hr a week.

I would continue to log on on hour a week to try and blast people and steal their robes.

[Mafakka]

How dramatic? Back to the numbers it had pre exp boost? The issue now is that the server has reached the end of its time. No progression past velious, and you've got your neck beards who get off by ruining the experience for new players. At this point the only way to make it is to eat enough dick or buy enough rmt shit to survive.

[Squire]

Originally Posted by Mafakka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How dramatic? Back to the numbers it had pre exp boost? The issue now is that the server has reached the end of its time. No progression past velious, and you've got your neck beards who get off by ruining the experience for new players. At this point the only way to make it is to eat enough dick or buy enough rmt shit to survive.

My assertion, as it is every time I do my biannual two day return to the forums is that while rogean and company have a hard lined non wipe policy red server history is fraught with so many issues one can almost come to the conclusion that a deliberate effort to harm server growth and player retention and thus may warrent revisiting a server wipe/reboot if a compelling argument could be made.

[MerkelMacron]

The fundraiser seemed like a good idea because the developers seem to have decided that the nuclear option (wipe) is out of the question,

whenever I check the forum every other month everyone was begging for a wipe-it-clean, since late 2015

the rest of the convo on here is just 2 trannys and everyone else saying drugs and/or didnt read

[Mafakka]

Who'd be the beneficiary of the fundraiser?