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Old 02-09-2017, 01:19 PM
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Old 02-09-2017, 08:17 PM
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Is it some fear of the loss of control on red? That for every action on blue you can just petition according to a huge set of rules and Uncle Braknar will appear to save you?

Red will make you better at EQ, no doubt about it <3
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Old 02-09-2017, 08:27 PM
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Red isn't for whiners and complainers. I think that's one of the reasons people can't handle it. Thankfully there'e comfort in an endless set of rules on blue that keep you nice and safe.

Oh, and people advocating for more rules and more rules on those rules as weeks/months go by.
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Old 02-09-2017, 10:53 PM
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What is better about competition on Blue than competition on Red that makes you want to compete on Blue and not on Red?
Competition isn't a problem on blu, it encourages people to get shit done.

Plus no one wants to start over. I dont feel like doing my epic all over, let alone getting PKd trying to get it done.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:49 AM
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Not to mention those people who hang at certain levels to avoid lvl 60 pvp to farm newbs leveling. But if you're smart and bond /who to a movement so you don't get jumped red is ok.


One thing no one mentioned is you can box it while you're camping something on blue.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:32 AM
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So, what I am seeing is that Blue "competitive" raiders don't find Red raiding attractive, because there's a few people there who actively work to make the game intolerable. Interesting.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:45 AM
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So, what I am seeing is that Blue "competitive" raiders don't find Red raiding attractive, because there's a few people there who actively work to make the game intolerable. Interesting.
The bottom line is if you go to play on a pvp server, expect pvp. That includes pvp when raiding...so most raid nights you're not just playing a loot pinata game, you're keeping your eye on anyone zoning in, scouting, etc.

Nilbog or Rogean recorded a really good mass pvp fight in Dreadlands a couple of years back when the pop was higher, I'll see if I can find it on youtube.

Enabling pvp in blue raid zones would really help A/A to sort out their differences in a hurry if both hate pvp equally. Think about it ^^
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:46 AM
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I'll preface this with - different strokes for different folks...

Blue - you end up doing the same thing over and over again.

Level up a character to 55+
Dabble in the raid scene
Find out it's insane to put in that kind of time/work
re-roll a new character to level up...

*Personally this was not for me, sure the first time through when red wasn't around it was fun - but doing it over and over again... Not for me.

Red - Long hard road, but very rewarding in the end.
Level up to 55+ (not easy and definitely can be lonely along the way)
Get to casually raid (if that's your thing) from 1-4 days per week 5:30 - 10:30 (depending on time zone).
See 98% of the raid content that's out and get geared relatively fast.
Be in a casual guild - pvp, get your epic, snag a few smaller targets.

Either retire from EQ or continue casual play in whatever fashion you deem fit.

* Personally I love the pvp aspect, and along the way I got to see a lot of the things that I didn't in 1999-2002. VP, TOV, Sleepers and I also got to see every raid encounter in the game except Tunare (but let's be realistic - no sane person wants to clear POG).

If you want to play the game with out any limitations I would play red, if your just looking to level up and chat in groups over and over go blue (This is from a Casual players mindset).
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Old 02-10-2017, 12:59 PM
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If you want to play the game with out any limitations I would play red, if your just looking to level up and chat in groups over and over go blue (This is from a Casual players mindset
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Old 02-10-2017, 01:03 PM
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Best recorded pvp is the seb battle between 50 rag tag geared holocaust versus 25 vp gear azrael. You can find this on Sirkens YouTube channel.
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