Open Letter to Nilbog & Co: Raid Item Nerfs

[Yuuvy The Destroyer]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is there documented proof that people used mallets in classic? Even as a classic warrior I never heard of this being done :/

And out of curiosity, do mallets even work on phinny? Are they used?

On live I app'd to the local uber guild right between kunark and velious. I recall a conversation I had with another warrior in the guild about aggro and mallets were brought up. So they were used at least that early.

[khanable]

So the warrior builds threat on engage the old fashion way? And people wait for assist?!

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So the warrior builds threat on engage the old fashion way? And people wait for assist?!

Usually a warrior starts with riposte to build a bit with a tight chain, debuffs and slow land, then the chain slows, assist is called. We call for tank switches in vent, after two CHs the next tank taunts. It's easy peasy.

[khanable]

Ooh y'all have the staggered timers for discs..

weird

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ooh y'all have the staggered timers for discs..

weird

It's tremendous. Feels goog to innfer flame and have stonestance still available. Sometimes we use Rangers to build aggro because weaponshield is gross. Other times we let Relbaic tank and he just dies because he's an iksar (and to a lessor degree an SK)

[Erati]

@Cucs

Pretty sure mallets work like they do here just without recharging there isnt much of a point. Also I dont know how to find Lyguna on there, I tried to take a ruby to her once and after 2 hours of not seeing her I gave up and sold to a vendor hehe.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@Cucs

Pretty sure mallets work like they do here just without recharging there isnt much of a point. Also I dont know how to find Lyguna on there, I tried to take a ruby to her once and after 2 hours of not seeing her I gave up and sold to a vendor hehe.

It's just not worth it. You can build aggro through a ranger if necessary and the aggro level will carry to the warrior through taunt. It functions like it's supposed to.

[Erati]

right I was just saying that mechanically they more than likely still click from inventory instantly and will produce aggro like they do here

its just not efficient and there are better ways to have a tank MT for a raid as you described

[Daldaen]

On live a Belly Caster mob, if you cast on the mob from out of its Belly range, the effect generates nearly 0 aggro (it's basically social aggro on the first click and nothing from then on).

If you want to test, drop 5 mallet charges into a rooted ToV dragon. Then run in on a warrior with Fortitude. Have a monk turn on autoattack and the ToV dragon will instant flip to the monk.

Or just test it on some fire Giants. Spam cast snare on them from out of range, see how well that works for you to pull aggro.

I'm about... 78.54% sure this is a classic mechanic. Not something they recently changed on Live. Which would surely make the current meta of P99 change up a bit when you can no longer mallet dragons out of trains.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm about... 78.54% sure this is a classic mechanic. Not something they recently changed on Live. Which would surely make the current meta of P99 change up a bit when you can no longer mallet dragons out of trains.

iirc this was changed on live because it was possible to build so much agro on a mob from outside its melee range that other characters could melee / cast on the mob unharmed, this was an issue with rooted mobs mainly

quite sure about it