An idea too settle this whole skill level dispute thing

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean the fact that the uber guilds aren't getting a test server set up to have a competition like this? I agree with whoever said that if something like this were set up, most guilds would partake. I would imagine the majority of people in IB and DA don't really even care about the loot anymore as much as getting the kill. I haven't gotten an upgrade in months and there is really only like 1 item that is an upgrade until Kunark. I know a lot of people in both guilds are in the same position as I am.

You mean new members, alts and apps are not getting geared on raids?

/boggle

I refuse to believe you guys do 60+ raids just for the love of the kill when it can be killed with 30. Where is there any pleasure in that? You guys are gearing toons and/or selling gear. It's all good. But don't say it's not for the pixels.

[Loke]

I said the majority - not all. Apps and new members are most certainly getting gear, and I'm happy that there is someone who can use it - but what I was trying to say (and felt was pretty clear) was that the veteran members of both guilds care less about the loot and more about the kill. Now, this is just an assumption based on my own personal opinion - but I know at least in IB there is a lot of people who, like me, really don't need any of the loot and haven't for quite some time.

Honestly, I really don't care about gearing apps or people's alts - I don't show up to raids at 2am (well, lately I haven't really shown up to raids at all) so that a guildie's alt can run around with God loot. When I do show up for raids it's because I'm competitive and want to get the kill - I haven't really considered the loot aspect of it for quite awhile.

[guineapig]

All right then, that's fine.

The thread was not to solve a problem on the server. It was a chance at something fun to do that any guild can take part in. But I guess maybe the game isn't supposed to be fun for some people.

Let there be no more talk of "guild skills" though.
I don't want to hear any more about who's guild is better when, given the chance to prove it, you all back down and make lame excuses.

[Phallax]

I remember back like 4-5 months ago. People were bitching non-stop about poopsocking because there was really no "competition" in it. And everyone claimed thats what classic was all about, "competition".

Now no one is interested in a "competition" event? ...pathetic.

As, guineapig, said...are you seriously playing an emu server for pixels? ...pathetic.

I think this is a great idea.

For everyone bitching about the #s, its just like any other team thing out there. You go somewhere with a team, but you put up your best quad when it comes to proving your teams skill.

[Versus]

Don't mind me, I'm just a 25 monk, but here is my 2cp. And note: I don't know the guilds too well yet, but from what I gather, it's IB vs. DA.

Anyway.

Competition? Poopsocking is all part of it. It's about making the rival guild fucked out of content. That is still competition, even if it's lame. It will never be fair. Why would the lead guild want it to be fair? They want to remain the best by any means necessary. However, I have seen the pendelum swing for whatever reason, and the second best guild becomes the premier one. Shit happens, people leave, you never know.

TL;DR - Will never be fair. #1 vs. #2 will always be rivals and do anything to fuck one another.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Competition? Poopsocking is all part of it. ......

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TL;DR - Will never be fair. #1 vs. #2 will always be rivals and do anything to fuck one another.

If somebody wants to have a poopsocking contest on the test server than more power to them.

Personally I think a raid contest on the test server sounds way cooler.

It's a shame you didn't actually read the idea. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Versus]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If somebody wants to have a poopsocking contest on the test server than more power to them.

Personally I think a raid contest on the test server sounds way cooler.

It's a shame you didn't actually read the idea. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I read it. And I don't think there is a shot in hell it will ever happen. They are trying to put Kunark on the table. It's too much to make different levels PvP in different zones on PvP nights, what on earth makes you think they will open an entirely new server to play these "instanced raids" games? You're dreaming brother. It's a good idea, but the likelihood is stupid low.

[Kruel]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't mind me, I'm just a 25 monk, but here is my 2cp. And note: I don't know the guilds too well yet, but from what I gather, it's IB vs. DA.

Anyway.

You are mostly correct. It is IB / DW /Panth!- Vs. DA

One thing i dont notice much or any of is DW comming in here claiming "they" or there guild got a server first. Lets get one thing straight this was two guilds trying to take out the 800lb gorrilla that is DA. that is all.

[karsten]

Plus Pantheon, aka the peanut butter & jelly in the middle of the sandwich! hehehe

i mean how else do you think we all killed THREE BOSSES IN THREE HOURS!?!?

[Chanus]

Is it really surprising the top guilds are comprised of mostly shouty asshats along for the zerg ride?

All puffing out their chests and talking a big game, but unwilling to actually get down to it?

Maybe a handful people in any of the guilds actually knowing how to do things properly, but due to the climate of poopsock==win, their knowledge is all but useless?