Raid guild that doesnt require vent

[Odeseus]

Vent is nice for complicated encounters, but I rarely use it. I have no mic, but I have logged in to listen to make sure I don't miss anything "important". Half the time I can't understand what is being said, or what is being said is completely irrelevant to what is happening. Then you add in that vent is far from perfect (one guy speaks too loudly, too softly, has music turned up so loud that you can't hear him, another has a horribly annoying voice for whatever reason, and on and on) and I find it more trouble than it is worth.

2 major things tip the scales for me. If I really needed to, I'd deal with all the imperfections. BUT the strats and encounters here are 12 years old now. Each raiding guild probably has their own strats or guides posted. There is no excuse for having no idea what to do. Leaders shouldn't have to tell you anything too horribly important in vent or otherwise about what is happening.

The other major thing is that I am a mage. I basically do 3 things: send pet in, nuke and hand out mod rods. Rarely do I do anything else. Do I really need to be in vent for this? Now, it would be different if I was the main tank, puller or healer. Those people may want to use vent, but I'm not in those groups so I don't worry about it.

Oh, and if it is a problem of letting people know strats quickly, you can always do what my guild leader did back on live: save the strats on macros. Basically "/guild This mob does X, Y and Z. Classes A, B and C need to do this, etc."

Just my thoughts.

[fastboy21]

vent's usefulness in raiding for eq is very over-rated.

more often than not, at least in my opinion, voice chat is actually MORE confusing than giving simple text directions. vent isn't super high quality, there are background noises, language accents, people who can't shut up, etc...

to me, a few hours each night of that is FAR more wearing than old school chat communication.

there are times when it is useful...and I'm sure there are plenty of folks who for legit reasons are more comfortable with audible communication, but i think it is still way over-used.

[nalkin]

mumble > vent

[Nebichan]

The problem was lack of information. How is someone supposed to tell the difference between people that refuse to get on vent (like their speakers are "broken" for a month now, hasn't gotten around to get vent to work or "I'm hanging out in another guy's vent atm") and someone who is actually unable to? I'm not saying "announce to the entire guild" that you are deaf. Contact the GL or an officer - they will understand - not judge - not smear this info on every wall - and things can be worked around. Don't judge people for not "accepting deaf people" when no mention of this was ever made.

Instructions are given on vent - especially during spammy times (lots of heal spam) or to get a specific pet off a mob. Saying when you crashed or where you died - saying "dont heal me" when a big train is about to whack you.

[Curmudgen]

I guess like all the "wives" and "girlfriends" needing IP exemptions that there will be a new wave of deaf folks that can't use vent.

Good thing too. Someone explain to me how someone bitching endlessly about the purity of classic eq can turn around and use vent.

[Pycoba_rng]

I've led over 40 + raids on P99 , at least 20 + were public ones if that. Yes they were on another character. All the raids I led on P99 had no vent involved at all. If I could lead public raids without vent sucessfully. Then it goes to show vent is only as good as you make it. Vent is also great if your a leader that can't type worth a damn. Do I think vent is useful? Yes absolutely... As far as it being better , it really depends on the players. I'm oldschool and i like doing things the old fashion way so I choose not to use it.

[Mardur]

Isn't Dozekar also in the process of falling apart at the moment?

[Kassel]

no one needs vent for 12 year old tank and spank content....

[Chanus]

I don't see where there's much else to talk about.

You can't force people to respect the game "as it was" and not use Vent.

If you don't want to use Vent, don't join a guild that requires Vent.

There isn't any content that's too difficult or complex to be accomplished without Vent, so if your guild doesn't want to use Vent... don't use Vent.

Oh, and if your guild wants to use Vent for whatever reason... use Vent.

[ryuut1]

deaf people have no souls