My experience with a raid guild on P99

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by ZiggyTheMuss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think we might be in the same guild! Also, seeing members fawn over the token fat chick in the guild is so cringeworthy. Meh, when I joined the server three months ago I think I had an idea like you "oh cool I get to go on raids now like I never had time to on live, it shouldn't be hotly contested or anything in this old game... Right?"

I think what it comes down to is a difference in personalities, mentalities, and expectations. I am sure many people would be in my shoes, and feel completely comfortable with the way the guild operates, they may even find it operates quite well. With that in mind, I am sure there are some who share my sentiment in this guild, as well as other guilds on the server. With that being said, it's hard to say if we share the same guild. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey, I sure appreciate the feedback from everyone, even those who may find my post obnoxious or self-entitling. I always enjoy hearing different perspectives particularly those that are different than mine. I feel better after venting my thoughts out after seeing what others think, or have experienced themselves. Thanks for the comments.

[Nitsude]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey, I sure appreciate the feedback from everyone, even those who may find my post obnoxious or self-entitling. I always enjoy hearing different perspectives particularly those that are different than mine. I feel better after venting my thoughts out after seeing what others think, or have experienced themselves. Thanks for the comments.

I apologize if my post seemed harsh. After reading your later comments I can tell you're not the kind of player I was describing as self-entitled.

[picklefixer]

Originally Posted by ZiggyTheMuss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think we might be in the same guild! Also, seeing members fawn over the token fat chick in the guild is so cringeworthy. Meh, when I joined the server three months ago I think I had an idea like you "oh cool I get to go on raids now like I never had time to on live, it shouldn't be hotly contested or anything in this old game... Right?"

I had this same idealistic thinking about 6 years ago when I installed P99...but in my defense I had hit the crack pipe pretty hard just before hand...so you know.

I have not even seen a Dragon yet...although i came close once when i got AoE Feared by the one in EJ...i think.

Just now coming back from a 1 year /afk...ain't shit changed but the time my friends!

<Insert SweetAss Sig Here>
Mrtwig 60 Druid

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by picklefixer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had this same idealistic thinking about 6 years ago when I installed P99...but in my defense I had hit the crack pipe pretty hard just before hand...so you know.

I have not even seen a Dragon yet...although i came close once when i got AoE Feared by the one in EJ...i think.

Just now coming back from a 1 year /afk...ain't shit changed but the time my friends!

<Insert SweetAss Sig Here>
Mrtwig 60 Druid

That's pretty much how it is. Depending on the person, the experience is going to be different. I originally had this idea that the guild was bad, then I thought ok, no, I am bad, and now I understand it's neither.

It's how I perceive and process the experience whether it is bad or not.

I think sometimes, a person can alter how one processes an experience, while other times it's just impossible or not worth the effort in changing how things are processed.

Like my UK buddy says, I can't be "assed" to change how I process this experience, it's just better for me if I stick with how I already process things and enjoy them.

Gonna keep my eyes open for a smaller guild to join, and in the mean while just play and group up, XP, etc., like I always did before which is what I enjoy most on this game.

[nyclin]

Others have said it but it bears repeating: people are cynical about new guild members, unless you're an established personality on the server.

Everyone has seen the new app that was a ghost that never talked or contributed, or the "help me with epic plz" spammer, or the person who shows their true, shitty personality after they become full member.

Best way to get help is to give it. Eventually the people you're helping are going to say "hey dude, you're here helping us - what can we do for you?" If they don't, then it's probably time to find a new group of people to play with.

[burkemi5]

The issues with cliquey-ness are pretty standard on here. When I raided in a now defunct self-proclaimed "casual raiding guild," it was really bad. Unless you sat in TS for hours each night, cracked the best jokes, and cozied up to the officers, no one gave a shit about you or wanted to help you. And the pixel craze was pretty bad too. The humble bragging was so bad. I remember there was one member who once made a comment about how his bags were so full of useful clickies that he wouldn't loot anything worth less than 30k. While the rest of us had a hooded black cloak as our most valuable item. And in hindsight, all our rarely-obtained raid loot was loot counciled to one of the excessively large officer crew. At the time I was on board and drinking the koolaid but, looking back, fudge that.

I think the pixel/ plat craze is just too strong on this server because it's so sparse.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by burkemi5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The issues with cliquey-ness are pretty standard on here. When I raided in a now defunct self-proclaimed "casual raiding guild," it was really bad. Unless you sat in TS for hours each night, cracked the best jokes, and cozied up to the officers, no one gave a shit about you or wanted to help you. And the pixel craze was pretty bad too. The humble bragging was so bad. I remember there was one member who once made a comment about how his bags were so full of useful clickies that he wouldn't loot anything worth less than 30k. While the rest of us had a hooded black cloak as our most valuable item. And in hindsight, all our rarely-obtained raid loot was loot counciled to one of the excessively large officer crew. At the time I was on board and drinking the koolaid but, looking back, fudge that.

I think the pixel/ plat craze is just too strong on this server because it's so sparse.

That's my impression of it too. Pretty much how I feel about it, and it's not in my personality to try to "cozy" up to people to liken the chance I might get stuffs. I don't do it IRL, and I won't do it to get pixels either.

I know a guy that plays a shaman on this server, he's been here for 3-4 years at least. He never joined a guild, and basically spent tons of time farming to get plats to buy his last piece of his epic from a MQ, he bought torpor, he basically spent YEARS grinding to get what a guild probably could have gotten him faster. He did it though, because he dislikes the politics in guilds so much that he refused to join one.

I totally get why he did it this way, and respect the fact he found a way to get what he wants without having to sacrifice his own personal code of values. I have a little bit of me that is like him, but I also like to group up and have fun times in dungeons etc. I like solo stuff, but grouping is great too. I don't think I could go full-maverick like this guy has done though.

[zanderklocke]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know a guy that plays a shaman on this server, he's been here for 3-4 years at least. He never joined a guild, and basically spent tons of time farming to get plats to buy his last piece of his epic from a MQ, he bought torpor, he basically spent YEARS grinding to get what a guild probably could have gotten him faster. He did it though, because he dislikes the politics in guilds so much that he refused to join one.

I think this is why I find casual guilds to be more fun. I always had the most fun in Flawless Victory and A-Team, and I got very little loot through the years I spent in those guilds. Aside from maybe a set of hate gear for my bard in Flawless Victory, and DKP spent on one Cloak of Piety in the A-Team, I earned everything outside of the guild or on /randoms at guild events. However, I got to have fun conversation with people while doing whatever I felt like doing when I logged in. I'll always be a casual guild guy; guilds are more fun when you don't care about loot and care more about having people to talk to while you're screwing around in the game. I can't imagine what fulfillment people get when they define their guilds' successes by what mobs they kill rather than the relationships they cultivate.

[TanDemain]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this is why I find casual guilds to be more fun. I always had the most fun in Flawless Victory and A-Team, and I got very little loot through the years I spent in those guilds. Aside from maybe a set of hate gear for my bard in Flawless Victory, and DKP spent on one Cloak of Piety in the A-Team, I earned everything outside of the guild or on /randoms at guild events. However, I got to have fun conversation with people while doing whatever I felt like doing when I logged in. I'll always be a casual guild guy; guilds are more fun when you don't care about loot and care more about having people to talk to while you're screwing around in the game. I can't imagine what fulfillment people get when they define their guilds' successes by what mobs they kill rather than the relationships they cultivate.

/wave Zanderr! Was thinking of logging in again recently and wondered how A-Team was doing. The main point I think that is important is you need a caring, open inner-core. Like every country has their rich/elites, every guild has their elite circle as well (and some are very closed-off, rarely tell others where they're going/doing etc). It's important that this core makes an effort as well to invite others to participate.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this is why I find casual guilds to be more fun. I always had the most fun in Flawless Victory and A-Team, and I got very little loot through the years I spent in those guilds. Aside from maybe a set of hate gear for my bard in Flawless Victory, and DKP spent on one Cloak of Piety in the A-Team, I earned everything outside of the guild or on /randoms at guild events. However, I got to have fun conversation with people while doing whatever I felt like doing when I logged in. I'll always be a casual guild guy; guilds are more fun when you don't care about loot and care more about having people to talk to while you're screwing around in the game. I can't imagine what fulfillment people get when they define their guilds' successes by what mobs they kill rather than the relationships they cultivate.

Hey Zanderr! Complete agreement, FV was good times.