UNICEF Seeks $ 115,000,000 To Sustain Misery

[Jarnauga]

Giving to charities is communism

Good job america ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by entruil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bleeegh i agree with this^

they will never stop stealing from people who earn money and if they did global charities would be even worse, local charities and maybe some international ones could be okay but most of your donations are going to end up in the hillary rodham Tlinton(apparently) coffeurs...

if global charities are perpetuating misery... then the globalist agenda includes charity.

My point is that charity in general perpetuates misery with its poor efficacy. It keeps people alive, allows them to make more babies who need more resources and so on without ever lifting people from the state of misery. That is simply deplorable.

And no, I don't consider it a symptom of some globalist conspiracy, it's a symptom of selfish human nature. People subsidize these conditions because it makes them feel better. They feel like they've done something important, helped someone, made a difference. When in fact all they have done is ensure the misery shall continue.

The only effective means of correcting the problem is to remove people from that environmen. That means one of two things.

1. Assume the role of provider and mentor until those people are able to function successfully in their new environment. Most people prefer to have children instead. or

2. Allow nature to take its course. Is that an awful thing to say? Yes, but in the interest of humanity it is the right thing to do. I suppose the most humane course of action would be to hasten the work of nature so the misery is as minimized, but that would run the risk of eliminating potentially valuable mutations from which the rest of mankind could benefit.

Most people are unwilling to pay the material price of 1 or the emotional price of 2 (i.e. assume a lower standard of living to care for and teach another individual that is not their own offspring, or accept the despicable nature of their own actions), so instead, they choose to sustain the misery.

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Giving to charities is communism

Good job america ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This is just odd and no, not what I am saying and not what Daywolf is saying either. We are saying two very different things, but neither is this ^^

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon

literally kill the poor because i cannot understand happiness without money

[maskedmelon]

People who are happy are not miserable ^^ If you subscribe to liberalism/libertarianism, then people ought to be free to live as they choose even if that means being miserable. I see it as inhumane though, especially when the misery is at least in part a result of outside forces.

At the same time, allowing those people to proliferate is immoral because of the threat their proliferation represents to humanity both in diluting the mean and in chaos and destruction when they finally do lash out at the wretchedness of their circumstance.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People who are happy are not miserable ^^ If you subscribe to liberalism/libertarianism, then people ought to be free to live as they choose even if that means being miserable. I see it as inhumane though, especially when the misery is at least in part a result of outside forces.

At the same time, allowing those people to proliferate is immoral because of the threat their proliferation represents to humanity both in diluting the mean and in chaos and destruction when they finally do lash out at the wretchedness of their circumstance.

Gotta love conditioned generalizations.

[maskedmelon]

I should reiterate thought that it is equally commendable to actually correct the problem, but most are unwilling to do that.

The general point is: support fixing the problem, not sustaining it.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gotta love conditioned generalizations.

I'm not suggesting all poor people are miserable. Pokesan took the discussion in that direction.

Tell me, Ald, are you happy when you've not eaten all day? How about for three days? A week? Not knowing when you will eat next?

Is it nice to impose this sort of condition in people who are unable to care for themselves because contributions do not always meet the demands of nature (famine, disease, etc)?


Or were you alluding to something else? Liberalism/libertarianism?

[Pokesan]

I reckon those miserable folks would be a smidge happier being alive than with your plan.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not suggesting all poor people are miserable. Pokesan took the discussion in that direction.

Tell me, Ald, are you happy when you've not eaten all day? How about for three days? A week? Not knowing when you will eat next?

Is it nice to impose this sort of condition in people who are unable to care for themselves because contributions do not always meet the demands of nature (famine, disease, etc)?


Or were you alluding to something else? Liberalism/libertarianism?

I think you don't know what you're talking about which is cute.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I reckon those miserable folks would be a smidge happier being alive than with your plan.

Does that smidge of happiness entitle them to propagate misery? Because so long as they are reasonably healthy, they'll introduce children into the state of "a smidge happier than dead" and the number will grow.

Have to correct the problem rather than sustaining it by placating one's conscience. If you don't support active intervention (not sure I do, don't really want to think about it and don't need to because it is unlikely to ever happen), at least stop perpetuating it. If you have the means to lift one or more from that state and set them on a path to success, then by all means do it ^^