Dos the Left Hate Pride?

[maerilith]

/pras Alarti, this kid is full of pride that they served or are cool for doing so (or I don't know I can't really tell for sure, they seem to not want to acknowledge anyone else). They maybe perhaps didn't feel the calling and understand that the pride should have been in the people they served with and for.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/pras Alarti, this kid is full of pride that they served or are cool for doing so (or I don't know I can't really tell for sure, they seem to not want to acknowledge anyone else). They maybe perhaps didn't feel the calling and understand that the pride should have been in the people they served with and for.

Yea, the keyword is serve.

[pickled_heretic]

Your explicit assertion: liberals hate pride
Your tacit assertion: pride is a good thing and people who hate pride are bad, therefore liberals are bad
My assertion: it is literally a basic tenet of christianity that pride is the worst possible sin

Now. I generally prefer to let people draw their own conclusions from facts rather than spell them out, but here's a few obvious ones if you got lost somewhere along the way:

Most people in the US (regardless of political affiliation) are christian, and if they follow those tenets they should call patent bullshit on the aforementioned assumption that pride is a good thing

An even higher percentage of the political right are christian than the US population at large, and should be even more inclined than said population at large to espouse the concept of pride being sinful and wrong

If they aren't/don't, they are being hypocritical, which I'm assuming everyone agrees is bad...

I think it is obvious that you could then draw the following conclusion (irrespective of your actual religious affiliation, which I do not care to know):

anyone who criticizes a specific group of a specific like or dislike of a behavior without acknolwedging and understanding that a much larger group also has that exact same behavior codified in their belief system is simply ignoring reality, or, they are also tacitly accusing that group of hypocrisy.

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your explicit assertion: liberals hate pride
Your tacit assertion: pride is a good thing and people who hate pride are bad, therefore liberals are bad
My assertion: it is literally a basic tenet of christianity that pride is the worst possible sin

Now. I generally prefer to let people draw their own conclusions from facts rather than spell them out, but here's a few obvious ones if you got lost somewhere along the way:

Most people in the US (regardless of political affiliation) are christian, and if they follow those tenets they should call patent bullshit on the aforementioned assumption that pride is a good thing

An even higher percentage of the political right are christian than the US population at large, and should be even more inclined than said population at large to espouse the concept of pride being sinful and wrong

If they aren't/don't, they are being hypocritical, which I'm assuming everyone agrees is bad...

I think it is obvious that you could then draw the following conclusion (irrespective of your actual religious affiliation, which I do not care to know):

anyone who criticizes a specific group of a specific like or dislike of a behavior without acknolwedging and understanding that a much larger group also has that exact same behavior codified in their belief system is simply ignoring reality, or, they are also tacitly accusing that group of hypocrisy.

Wait, Liberals aren't bad?
Christians = bad
Whites = bad
Males = bad
Pride = Gay?

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Blitzers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, Liberals aren't bad?
Christians = bad
Whites = bad
Males = bad
Pride = Gay?

I made literally none of those assertions, ever, and in fact did not even bring up 3 of those topics

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I made literally none of those assertions, ever, and in fact did not even bring up 3 of those 4 topics

I didn't read your post, I was just fucking around man

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Blitzers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't read your post

i can tell

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your explicit assertion: liberals hate pride
Your tacit assertion: pride is a good thing and people who hate pride are bad, therefore liberals are bad
My assertion: it is literally a basic tenet of christianity that pride is the worst possible sin

Now. I generally prefer to let people draw their own conclusions from facts rather than spell them out, but here's a few obvious ones if you got lost somewhere along the way:

Most people in the US (regardless of political affiliation) are christian, and if they follow those tenets they should call patent bullshit on the aforementioned assumption that pride is a good thing

An even higher percentage of the political right are christian than the US population at large, and should be even more inclined than said population at large to espouse the concept of pride being sinful and wrong

If they aren't/don't, they are being hypocritical, which I'm assuming everyone agrees is bad...

I think it is obvious that you could then draw the following conclusion (irrespective of your actual religious affiliation, which I do not care to know):

anyone who criticizes a specific group of a specific like or dislike of a behavior without acknolwedging and understanding that a much larger group also has that exact same behavior codified in their belief system is simply ignoring reality, or, they are also tacitly accusing that group of hypocrisy.

Oh ok, so you were angry that I wasn't being inclusive. I had assumed (i know, you, me, ass, I get it) that you were suggesting I was somehow ambassador of the population you are angry with since you were somehow linking something I said with hypocrisy on their behalf. I hadn't really considered how the right views pride though. Wasn't part of the inspiration. We can discuss that in the future though, or you can start your own thread.

What do you think though? Does the left hate pride? Do you? Why?

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My assertion: it is literally a basic tenet of christianity that pride is the worst possible sin

I'm guessing you were raised Catholic? This and as you said most in the US are Christians, which I don't believe is true. Sure, many say they are, but many or most of those are involved in the Emergent one-world religion such as the pope hat is pushing. Like my nephews GF, she says she's a Christian, but really she's a trendy western buddhist. People try to mix and match a lot of different things, but that just makes something else.

But as far as "pride" goes, it's a catalyst, not a sin in itself. It's a wrapper for many things, and can be used in different ways. So, pride is usually associated with something, such as most any word that contains "self-" (excluding the word "-humility") can lead to a bad thing. You see where I'm going with that. So like, can you be proud of your Son without such pride being "sin"? Of course! I mean 'to be well pleased' is a form of pride, and if invested into someone else for the right reasons and proper measure, there is no dishonor.

As for the topic, imo ~90% of Democrats are full of self-pride, and become enraged if anyone else offends their pride by disagreeing with them or resisting their force to make you comply to their self-righteous self-appointed moral high-ground rules and laws they often create on the fly. So prepare to be tagged as a "-phobe" of some sort, as they make up a bunch of shite to smear you into some lowly shame box beneath them. Same goes for some Repubs, mainly those that seem to have much in common with the Dems and the left.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm guessing you were raised Catholic? This and as you said most in the US are Christians, which I don't believe is true. Sure, many say they are, but many or most of those are involved in the Emergent one-world religion such as the pope hat is pushing. Like my nephews GF, she says she's a Christian, but really she's a trendy western buddhist. People try to mix and match a lot of different things, but that just makes something else.

But as far as "pride" goes, it's a catalyst, not a sin in itself. It's a wrapper for many things, and can be used in different ways. So, pride is usually associated with something, such as most any word that contains "self-" (excluding the word "-humility") can lead to a bad thing. You see where I'm going with that. So like, can you be proud of your Son without such pride being "sin"? Of course! I mean 'to be well pleased' is a form of pride, and if invested into someone else for the right reasons and proper measure, there is no dishonor.

As for the topic, imo ~90% of Democrats are full of self-pride, and become enraged if anyone else offends their pride by disagreeing with them or resisting their force to make you comply to their self-righteous self-appointed moral high-ground rules and laws they often create on the fly. So prepare to be tagged as a "-phobe" of some sort, as they make up a bunch of shite to smear you into some lowly shame box beneath them. Same goes for some Repubs, mainly those that seem to have much in common with the Dems and the left.

What people call themselves is the only valid definition for what religion people are. Anything else falls apart to scrutiny. example: If we use your version for who is and is not a Christian (which is that other people can tell them what religion they are), I'm fairly sure many other Christians (perhaps even a plurality in the US, given demographics) would affirm that you are something other than a Christian because you are stating that pride is not a sin when it has been considered a sin since before the Catholic church even existed. If you grant yourself the ability to judge whether or not a certain person is of a given faith, you open yourself up to the same scrutiny.