Is P99 today a better game of than EQ live in 2001 ?

[Swish]

Originally Posted by mr_jon3s [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Live was way better for one simple reason. People didn't know shit. Everyone knows everything now and the game has no real mystery.

True, the wiki makes sure everything is covered too.

[Skinned]

P99 all the way. This could be because that as a person I'm more intelligent, more skilled, and a better gamer than I was that long ago, because my characters have advanced in gear and level much faster this go around. 'Knowing' everything hasn't hindered me too much because with this increase in capability has come with a different way to handle content. Plus there is enough content that the leveling path doesn't need to be the same way twice. I haven't played in the LOIO or Frontier Mountains ever on P99 because I played them to death on live when they were brand new...but places like Guk or Kaesora lie available, and with deeper pockets, more toys to use, and being better at the game, I can do more than I ever could before.

I think a lot of the people who play P99 are older, usually from the original series, and more diehard, since they could have gone to easier MMOs like many people a long time ago.

[ridiculousmoose]

No 24 hour+ downtimes... p99 wins!

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by mr_jon3s [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Live was way better for one simple reason. People didn't know shit. Everyone knows everything now and the game has no real mystery.

I dunno, there are still a lot of misconceptions and differences of opinion now, especially when grouping in the 20s-30s when people are only really just learning their new character (in my opinion a big part of what makes those levels fun).

[Zuranthium]

The game in 2001 was much more about adventuring and discovering things and taking risks and enjoying the environment. Less than it was in 1999 or 2000, but still way more than it is here. Even if you just looked online for the best places to grind/farm back then, and printed out all the information you could find about everything, it was still a different game. People were more open to doing things that were simply fun.

Perhaps it's just because less was known back then, but I think even beyond that there was a different attitude. Being in the game to enjoy it, not being in the game simply to "beat" it, which is what the mentality kept becoming more and more as the game existed. People these days could do dungeon crawls for fun, a nice challenging single-group endeavor that's not trying to specifically camp anything or get a drop, but who does?

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If there is another blue server, here is to hoping it goes at half the release pace which will pretty much resolve all...most of the original problems on live.

That wouldn't come anywhere close to resolving the problems this game has. Severely outdated and unbalanced combat system, lack of dynamic content, lack of incentive to do anything but wiki and power-path your way through the game. People keep thinking that resets will "fix" the state of p99 servers, but it never will. As long as the ruleset remains the same, everyone is just going to keep doing the same shit.

The game as it stands now is a memorial. Something meant to be occasionally viewed and visited just as a reminder of history, not something you should spend a lot of time engaging in. We must learn from history and make something better, that's the only way forward.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought discord was suppose to be green, .

my understanding is:
Green is the classic - velious new blue server.
Purple is the team pvp server.
Discord is Discord, FFA pvp no rules.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by mr_jon3s [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone knows everything now

You're definitely exaggerating. We definitely all know more now, but it isn't close to everyone knowing everything.

[Mortiis]

[QUOTE=Jimjam;2301919]I totally agree here, expansions really flew out, many casuals from '99 still levelling up their first character even when PoP was released.

I was one of those.

What I've enjoyed with p99 is being able to really get my teeth into Norrath at my own pace.

This. I've been able to see and do a hell of a lot more on 99 than I ever did on live.

[myriverse]

Well... it's free.

But I still think EQ Live was better in 2001. Especially after Dec 4 2001.

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[Brontus]

Lots of great points here both pro and con. P1999 is amazing in many ways as it brings us back to what EQ live used to be like. But I think EQ Live was better. Here are some my reasons:

• Rigid interpretation of what constitutes classic EQ means we are frozen at Velious
  
• Limited meaningful admin and dev dialogue with the playerbase
  
• High level farmers camping named mobs in every zone which has created mudflation that has ruined the "classic EQ" experience as most newbies are twinked to the hilt
  
• Powerleveling is everywhere
  
• Bard swarm kiting
  
• Except for once a year on Halloween, no GM and Guide quests/events on P1999
  
• Not enough content for level 60 players