PSA : Red awaits !

[Cecily]

AFK kills really are the best.

[EQBallzz]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really enjoyed leveling on red, but the who facade falls apart the second you actually start interacting with the red player base. Once I hit 54 me and the few guys I duo'd with couldn't go near any popular zone without some epic rogue or t-staff monk harassing us. Ya, it is a pvp server, but a velious geared 60 rog vs a 54 cleric still rocking some bronze is lame for everyone involved. Most people on red aren't looking for pvp, they're looking for easy kills and opportunities to talk shit. It gets old real quick.

Isn't that a description of 95% of "PvP" players in all games? In the large majority of my PvP experiences (granted I don't seek this out as I'm not a PvP player) it's always someone ganking or griefing or 3 on 1 or a huge zerg force attacking a small group etc..Ironically, one of the exceptions to this (in my experience) was in WoW doing Arena and Battlegrounds. At least there you get relatively "equal" teams (with the obvious huge exceptions of gear and skill and coms).

[Axlrose]

As of 11:45 a.m. Central time:

Project 1999 PVP Red Server has 73 people potentially slaughtering each other.

Eve Online has 25,701 people backstabbing each other, unless they're ship spinning in station.

Red seems dead to me... *shrugs*

[snergle]

Originally Posted by EQBallzz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Isn't that a description of 95% of "PvP" players in all games? In the large majority of my PvP experiences (granted I don't seek this out as I'm not a PvP player) it's always someone ganking or griefing or 3 on 1 or a huge zerg force attacking a small group etc..Ironically, one of the exceptions to this (in my experience) was in WoW doing Arena and Battlegrounds. At least there you get relatively "equal" teams (with the obvious huge exceptions of gear and skill and coms).

only in games where pvp was an after thought. In games where pvp is the focus you still find people you will hate but you can just mute them and if its league report them so riot will perma mute them for you.

[Ruhtar]

Originally Posted by Lowako [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see you auto attacking nerds who arent fighting back. Is there something im missing?

I mean, yeah, that's one aspect of it. You could also mention he's a monk with a tstaff and if he was any caster other than a wizard, his PvP adventures would be about as fun as staring at a wall for 16 hours.

[Aesop]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really enjoyed leveling on red, but the who facade falls apart the second you actually start interacting with the red player base. Once I hit 54 me and the few guys I duo'd with couldn't go near any popular zone without some epic rogue or t-staff monk harassing us. Ya, it is a pvp server, but a velious geared 60 rog vs a 54 cleric still rocking some bronze is lame for everyone involved. Most people on red aren't looking for pvp, they're looking for easy kills and opportunities to talk shit. It gets old real quick.

I agree, it's really a small playerbase who thinks this is Counterstrike: Elven Offensive and rub it in everyone's faces. I think pvp is fun, and has it's place. I enjoy crushing skulls and winning pvp battles. I personally don't find it fun to destroy scrubs in bronze but the only way it's going to change is if they start enforcing the pnp. Do it for a month, ban a bunch of people. Change some of the server dynamics (Seb is basically off limits, no pvp level limit, a 60 rogue who is always raid buffed and has like 6 clickies so you can dispel any of those buffs haunts the place whenever he can't find a puppy to kick. Try and be 52 and level in seb, get one shotted)

In my view yellow text contributes a lot to this, it's positive reinforcement for behavior we don't actually want (griefing, noobslaying) and then you have the added benefit of these same sociopaths having access to a global megaphone -- trust me the benefits of global ooc are outweighed by the negatives.

no matter what we do or how nice we are to people these experiences are the ones that are going to stick with them. You have to make sure they have like 10 nice experience to counter every bad one and that just doesn't happen on this server.

You can beat those guys though. They are easily bored, log out for 10 minutes and they log out once they don't have a puppy to kick. Never engage them in any conversation, just ignore them. Literally /ignore. Learn to coordinate dispels etc but it's asking a lot. Honestly if you wanna come to red you can't be the kind of person who gives up easily.

[Aesop]

oh and plugging. even if you do manage to beat the griefers they run to a zoneline and plug, denying you any satisfaction.

that's a huge mechanic that needs to change.

[Nixtar]

Originally Posted by VZ_Xanit K'ven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not made for pvp?


compare this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOy8p0mqD7o

with your average boring blue Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_--BMqMN5o

Pro tip: If you wish to sell red on having exp bonus and raid targets being up maybe, just maybe, don't show a bunch of morons waiting to engage in PvP until AFTER those players already having engaged a PVE target.

Otherwise you show Red99 for what it is, which is definitely not what you want in order to get players. Geez, least wait till they're 50+ before griefing them off the server.

[dallow2345]

one day of hearing ooc channel chat convinced me i didnt want to be around any of them. I really dont care who has the bigger pecker, or who is the boss, or who is sleeping with whos mother. lifes to short to waste time there.

[Farzo]

Originally Posted by VZ_Xanit K'ven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not made for pvp?


compare this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOy8p0mqD7o

with your average boring blue Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_--BMqMN5o

lol about sums it up.