DKP

[Colgate]

basically just proves the point that it's a retarded system when you invest that much time and you can't even spend your goblintown currency

[Expediency]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

basically just proves the point that it's a retarded system when you invest that much time and you can't even spend your goblintown currency

You got something better than DKP? He's asking about DKP and we're answering. You're just cluttering up the thread with poor trolling attempts.

Originally Posted by ambahpants [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You forget to note that this was as an applicant.

How many raids does it take to go from "applicant" to "member" so that you can earn and spend dkp with no strings attached?

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Expediency [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You got something better than DKP? He's asking about DKP and we're answering. You're just cluttering up the thread with poor trolling attempts.



How many raids does it take to go from "applicant" to "member" so that you can earn and spend dkp with no strings attached?

The only system better than DKP is being the brother or side piece of the guild leader.

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only system better than DKP is being the brother or side piece of the guild leader.

The sister and the lover?

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only system better than DKP is being the brother or side piece of the guild leader.

THIS

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I came to conclusion, shared by many, that dkp on a content locked server like p99 is kind of pointless. DKP is useful when content is flying by, and you want to make sure you have points to get items before the game (and your guild) moves on.

On p99, burn out and turnover is so high, and again, the content is locked at Velious, so really, dkp is an unnecessary complication, needless work for the officers. Basically, if you can commit to a year (maximum) of heavy playing, you will get the itemz you want as long as you are in a guild owning content.

(Just to reaffirm how messed up I am, "a year of heavy playing" sounds modest to me. But during live, everyone was playing heavy in the top guilds, and you only had ~6 months before the ancient runed orcish reamer you wanted was going to be obsolete, so playing the DKP game was crucial to getting the pixels. Just not a factor on p99. Just put in your time, be a good guildie, especially tracking and other skullfucking jobs like coth bitch etc, and you will get...... the pixels of your dreams)


edit: and oh yeah, don't join a zerg guild. Moar members = moar mouths to feed. Since the mighty BDA has left the building, not sure what non-zerg guilds are left. The ideal is to join a guild whose actual raiding force at any given time is well south of 200 people.

[Swish]

I think that's another issue for new players joining the party late here. There's a bunch of people who've been here for years who haven't changed guilds etc with more amassed DKP than you can imagine.

Want that necro pet focus item (or something else that drops once in a blue moon)? Naw, not happening.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think that's another issue for new players joining the party late here. There's a bunch of people who've been here for years who haven't changed guilds etc with more amassed DKP than you can imagine.

Want that necro pet focus item (or something else that drops once in a blue moon)? Naw, not happening.

That really wasn't a problem in Awakened because nice items go for alot of DKP. The absolute max was 8k and most higher end stockpiles are around 1.5k atm. Real nice stuff goes for about 3k. Nice stuff 1-1.5. Shit no one wants goes for 50-100ish. All blind DKP bids so the possibility of wasting your points is super high and potential for officer corruption is there too.

My biggest deal with them was the stranglehold on control over which of your characters could bid on something. They have mains and certified alts. Certs were sold to me as a second main by some people (not the case) and basically atm they are only eligible for Kunark tier junk none of my characters would want. DKP is a finite resource. Players should be able to decide for themselves how they want to budget their points across their own characters w/o mom or dad telling them who they can gear.

The problem DKP is it puts power into the player's hands. The problem with officers is certain types of people get off on having power over others. Therefore you have to maintain that control with things like zero tolerance for human emotion policies and heavy censorship in public involving heavy dkp sanctions and threats of no ST key consideration for 6 months.

[Expediency]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All blind DKP bids so the possibility of wasting your points is super high and potential for officer corruption is there too.

They need to move to a system where winner pays second place +1. Expediency bids 1000, cecily bids 1500, cecily wins and pays 1001.

[xKoopa]

Originally Posted by Expediency [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They need to move to a system where winner pays second place +1. Expediency bids 1000, cecily bids 1500, cecily wins and pays 1001.

Thats the old asgard loot system.. rip