DKP

[Syche]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

47 raids and about 15 hours of tracking got me about 850 dkp, which was enough for zero items.

Zero items while in app status is pretty common. You could have bought any but four items this week with 850 dkp in our guild as a full member.

We reward trackers/fte'rs and buffers in a big way here. Great way to keep those members willing to go the extra mile engaged in getting mobs!

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think that's another issue for new players joining the party late here. There's a bunch of people who've been here for years who haven't changed guilds etc with more amassed DKP than you can imagine.

Want that necro pet focus item (or something else that drops once in a blue moon)? Naw, not happening.

That really wasn't a problem in Awakened because nice items go for alot of DKP. The absolute max was 8k and most higher end stockpiles are around 1.5k atm. Real nice stuff goes for about 3k. Nice stuff 1-1.5. Shit no one wants goes for 50-100ish. All blind DKP bids so the possibility of wasting your points is super high and potential for officer corruption is there too.

My biggest deal with them was the stranglehold on control over which of your characters could bid on something. They have mains and certified alts. Certs were sold to me as a second main by some people (not the case) and basically atm they are only eligible for Kunark tier junk none of my characters would want. DKP is a finite resource. Players should be able to decide for themselves how they want to budget their points across their own characters w/o mom or dad telling them who they can gear.

The problem DKP is it puts power into the player's hands. The problem with officers is certain types of people get off on having power over others. Therefore you have to maintain that control with things like zero tolerance for human emotion policies and heavy censorship in public involving heavy dkp sanctions and threats of no ST key consideration for 6 months.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Syche [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zero items while in app status is pretty common. You could have bought any but four items this week with 850 dkp in our guild as a full member.

We reward trackers/fte'rs and buffers in a big way here. Great way to keep those members willing to go the extra mile engaged in getting mobs!

I know how much what I wanted costed. Please don't reply to this or any other thread again. That sig is hideous.

[Syche]

Loots are opening up to certs shortly. They are working on it as a guild policy. They will be second mains, but there is still a lot of actual mains that need gear, so it was definitely going to be a process to getting to second mains.

Cec paints a pretty drab picture of officers, which I can understand coming from her previous guilds. We haven't had any issues over the four years I have been in Taken then Awakened with this loot system. Bid to win and you can. No class is exempt. You want a slow trident on your rogue, bid to win. You want a mana item on your sk, bid to win.

DKP is by far the best system for loot. Our blind bids allow for some colossal wastes, which I am often one of the wasters...but I get to bid on what I want.

That being said, getting back to the OP, yes you will likely, no matter where you end up, have to raid for some significant time to get top tier items.

[nhdjoseywales]

Loot in 3 easy steps

1 Move to Phinny
2 Join any raid guild on the server
3 Do weekly split raid the same targets people race for a chance for here plus maybe get some open world spawns too and gear up fast.

Doing Split Vulaks with 36 per raid > pewpsocking him for hours upon hours for a chance to race for fte and then try him with 70+

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Syche [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cec paints a pretty drab picture of officers, which I can understand coming from her previous guilds.

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We haven't had any issues over the four years I have been in Taken then Awakened with this loot system. Bid to win and you can. No class is exempt. You want a slow trident on your rogue, bid to win.

No I paint a pretty drab picture of your officers, since those are the ones I've encounters recently. Gotta tell you. Watching your leadership try to kill and escape from VP is a real thing of beauty. I haven't laughed that hard in awhile. These guys kill million hp mobs.

As far as no issues with loot. That slow trident which a rogue won got him slut shamed for the better part of a week from a huge number of people in the guild and in general made him feel shit for spending his DKP on what he wanted. That is the point when your application to be my guild was denied. I was sticking around for a Baton of Flames for my ranger.

[Syche]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No I paint a pretty drab picture of your officers, since those are the ones I've encounters recently. Gotta tell you. Watching your leadership try to kill and escape from VP is a real thing of beauty. I haven't laughed that hard in awhile. These guys kill million hp mobs.

As far as no issues with loot. That slow trident which a rogue won got him slut shamed for the better part of a week from a huge number of people in the guild and in general made him feel shit for spending his DKP on what he wanted. That is the point when your application to be my guild was denied. I was sticking around for a Baton of Flames for my ranger.

This is hilarious, but we have a no drama policy in guild, so walking away from the thread before I get dkp docked. Good luck in your adventures Cec.

[Cecily]

I understand. Can't let that V-chip in your neck short circuit.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Syche [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is hilarious, but we have a no drama policy in guild, so walking away from the thread before I get dkp docked. Good luck in your adventures Cec.

Still get 2 warnings? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Syche]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still get 2 warnings? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nope Thulack and it's all I can do to not spew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].