Follow the bouncing weenie!

[xshayla701]

azeth nooooooo

[Glaani]

I laughed at the bouncing weenie. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Thanks for the link!

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i disagree

Epic reply.

I'll join you hasbinbad. I'm glad I didn't get circumcised after reading that.

Personally, I think that if nature gave us foreskin then there must be a purpose. I also don't think it would be very comfortable not to have the foreskin. In fact, just thinking about it makes me recoil. Kind of like when someone scratches their fingernails on the chalkboard. It would also make a mess faster.

Thank you god for foreskin.

While they're at it why don't they cut off our lips? That way people could see our teeth better.

What is this:

The two authors stated that circumcision diminishes the ability of the brain center of sexual pleasure to respond to stimuli. Moreover, it eliminates the secretion of smegma, which is a male genital lubricant with a gentle odor that is attractive to females. They believed that the changes that are the result of male circumcision decrease their attractiveness to females and make males of the tribe less irritable and more tolerant to one another. Therefore, tribal leaders find it easier to control circumcised males and direct them.

So is that saying that circumcision might reduce sensation and secretions?

Link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smegma

Wright states that smegma is produced from minute microscopic protrusions of the mucosal surface of the foreskin and that living cells constantly grow towards the surface, undergo fatty degeneration, separate off, and form smegma.

In healthy animals, smegma helps clean and lubricate the genitals.

Link:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...=smegma&page=6

"Analogous to tears, smegma is the compilation of secretions by ectopic sebaceous glands located in the prepuce, the seminal secretions of the Cowper's gland and the prostate, the mucin content of the secretions of the urethral glands, and the sloughed epithelial cells. It provides the necessary mucosal lubricant and moisturizer and is rich in sexual pheromones. The prepuce normally prevents detection of this phenomenally charged scent until the glans is exposed at the time erection takes place." - Robert S. Van Howe, MD

"Smegma is probably the most misunderstood, most unjustifiably maligned substance in nature. Smegma is clean, not dirty, and is beneficial and necessary. It moisturizes the glans and keeps it smooth, soft, and supple. Its antibacterial and antiviral properties keep the penis clean and healthy. All mammals produce smegma." - Thomas J. Ritter, MD
"Is smegma useful? Yes, certainly. It lubricates the cavity between the foreskin of the penis and the glans, thus allows smooth movement between them during intercourse ... Nature has ... provided a natural ointment, smegma, to ensure easy lubrication and protect this delicate region of the male genital organ. / To secure its even distribution, smegma is formed from the whole inner surface of the foreskin cavity ... Smegma production ... is concentrated in the cells of innumerable small prominences, minute microscopic protrusions of various shapes and sizes found on the inner surface of the foreskin cavity ... Sexual intercourse becomes a regular feature of life (in adulthood) and the function of smegma assumes its full value ... Freshly formed smegma ... is a wholesome lubricant--making for ease in erection and smoothness in sexual intercourse." - Joyce Wright, MD

Link:
http://www.cirp.org/library/normal/wright1/

Without correct treatment, ill health of the foreskin is liable to worsen - formation of smegma continues and, without outlet or access for cleaning, deposits collect and harden within the foreskin cavity. Such compact masses of smegma can lead to chronic disease, and even prepare the way for cancerous changes.

Cancer of the penis is not common in the United States but is frequent in certain tropical countries. It is almost always associated with uncleanliness and longstanding ill health of the penis. Usually a preceeding phimosis is present. Since the tumor commonly develops with such a closed foreskin cavity, it has been considered that retained smegma could be the cancer-inducing agent. [CIRP note: Cancer of the penis is now known to be associated with the presence of the human papilloma virus (HPV). Cancer of the penis may occur in both circumcised and uncircumcised men if HPV is present. Additional risk factors are hygiene, genital warts, and number of sexual partners. Smegma is not now believed to be carcinogenic.]

Nevertheless, experimental investigation of this so-called "smegma theory of genital cancer" has had little direct bearing on cancer in the male sex. Rather, it has been concerned with the causation of cervical carcinoma in in women. (cancer of the neck of the womb.) This might be conceivably be induced by smegma transferred to the vagina by the male during sexual intercourse.

Such research is beset with difficulties. In the first place, distinction must be made between normal smegma and accumulated smegma, which has undergone a variety of changes in the warmth of the foreskin cavity. Hence, any potential cancer-inducing property could well lie in products formed by chemical breakdown or bacterial action rather than in smegma itself.

A further problem arises in collection of fresh smegma in sufficient amount for experimental research. For this reason some workers have used smegma from horses because these animals produce it is large amounts. But despite repeated inoculations of horse smegma into the vaginas of laboratory animals, the results have been conflicting with regard to its inducing malignant disease.

Clearly a number of factors are involved in the causation of malignant disease of the genital organs. Whether smegma does or does not play a part will be known only when the causes of cancerous changes in general become clear. [CIRP note: It is now clear that smegma is not a carcinogen. Cancer of the genital organs are caused by HPV and smoking. See Cancer for more information.]

Meanwhile, personal hygiene and care of the penis rank high as a protection against chronic disease. Remember that it is stale and accumulated smegma that is a source of ill health for the penis. Freshly formed smegma, washed away regularly and constantly replenishing itself, is a wholesome lubricant - making for ease in erection and smoothness in sexual intercourse.

This is interesting. Perhaps ancient cultures performed circumcision to help prevent diseases and/or cancers of the penis because they did not properly clean it? Makes sense since primitive cultures do not clean themselves very well. Seems like a great way to do it would be to go for a swim in the creek?

Then again, a recent study in the UK found little to 0 cancer cases in egyptian mummies. They theorize that cancer did not exist in pre-industrial times in any significant amount.

Here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...n-mummies.html

[Sephrana]

Mad props to Hasbinbad for posting the anti-circ info and to Stormlord for seconding the opinion.

I was pro-circ until I read a bunch of info about it about 10 years ago and it opened my eyes SIGNIFICANTLY. Only about 40% of boys born in America are circ'd today. I didn't butcher my son and i'm glad! How could someone look at their perfect baby and decide to chop off part of him/her in mutilation...that's totally beyond me.

Also....circumcision HURTS the baby....why would you want to cause that pain in someone so teeny?! Just my two cents :P

Originally posted by Stormlord

This is interesting. Perhaps ancient cultures performed circumcision to help prevent diseases and/or cancers of the penis because they did not properly clean it? Makes sense since primitive cultures do not clean themselves very well. Seems like a great way to do it would be to go for a swim in the creek?

I'm not sure about the ancient reasons for starting the process. But in America in 2010 the only real argument FOR male genital mutilation is that uncircumcised males have a higher chance of catching HPV and HIV from unprotected sexual contact. If you wrap it - you shouldn't have a problem.

ALSO Men can now get the Gardisil shot which will protect them from HPV (And therefore could prevent penile cancer...as HPV is the leading cause of penile cancer.......Also according to the last pediatrician my kids had....it's becoming one of the leading causes of throat cancer in men...... I had asked him if Gardisil had been approved for male injection yet because it would help prevent men from getting it etc and he was telling me about the journal article he had read :P Interesting side note there!)

[Akame]

Originally Posted by Sephrana [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure about the ancient reasons for starting the process. But in America in 2010 the only real argument FOR male genital mutilation is that uncircumcised males have a higher chance of catching HPV and HIV from unprotected sexual contact. If you wrap it - you shouldn't have a problem.

Always fun to jump smack dab into the middle of someone elses conversation but to sum up (and since I've had similar conversations with Sephrana before and feel perfectly comfortable covering this topic with them):

Religious:
Circumcision was a sign of the covenant between God and Abraham's people, there were lots of reasons as to why blood had to be involved, all of which became moot when Jesus did what he did and was considered basically the past present and future blood sacrifice. Baptism became the sign of the covenant from then on.
Sidenote: Both circumcision and baptism are symbolic and not salvation ensuring.


Other:
It was believed for a while that circumcision was healthier in the long run for the boy medically so was kept as a common practice, with today's advances in modern medicine and simply put, hygiene practices, that belief is being discarded and we are definitely seeing a decline in circumcision because of it. It also is likely a continuing Jewish practice.

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[Sephrana]

Originally Posted by Akame [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Always fun to jump smack dab into the middle of someone elses conversation but to sum up (and since I've had similar conversations with Sephrana before and feel perfectly comfortable covering this topic with them):

Religious:
Circumcision was a sign of the covenant between God and Abraham's people, there were lots of reasons as to why blood had to be involved, all of which became moot when Jesus did what he did and was considered basically the past present and future blood sacrifice. Baptism became the sign of the covenant from then on.
Sidenote: Both circumcision and baptism are symbolic and not salvation ensuring.

DUDE! ([You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]) I TOTALLY shoulda known this. What's wrong with me!? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P to the S - Akame - Of course you should feel perfectly comfortable covering this topic with me. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] *EDIT* Since we've discussed religion :P

[Akame]

Originally Posted by Sephrana [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DUDE! ([You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]) I TOTALLY shoulda known this. What's wrong with me!? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P to the S - Akame - Of course you should feel perfectly comfortable covering this topic with me. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] *EDIT* Since we've discussed religion :P

Come on, read that book!

Then God said to Abraham, "As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come. This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you.

Gen 17, if you keep reading that included Abraham getting clipped at 90+ and his 13 year old son, and any servants they bought too /shudder

No thank you I'll just go get baptized, a dip in the creek sounds much more appealing.

[Phallax]

Gotta love how a simple comedic video turned into such a serious discussion. I swear this community doesnt understand the word fun or funny at all.

[Akame]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gotta love how a simple comedic video turned into such a serious discussion. I swear this community doesnt understand the word fun or funny at all.

Or some people can only sit in the gutter of that so called "fun" for so long.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Akame [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was believed for a while that circumcision was healthier in the long run for the boy medically so was kept as a common practice, with today's advances in modern medicine and simply put, hygiene practices, that belief is being discarded and we are definitely seeing a decline in circumcision because of it.

Soap > genital mutilation.