Cucumbers v Detoxx: An Epic Wiki Battle

[quido]

Different server?

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Different server?

Phinigel the live progression server. I'm curious to see if the results are the same. I was highly disappointed to get the results I did, specifically with the BoC. BoC has superior stats, awesome graphic, and the proc looks cool.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's what I'm saying though - I don't have that live bias. I'm speaking from my own experience - not even owning a SoD myself, but seeing how its aggro held up to mine with red blade. It held up abysmally a good number of times, to such a degree that I stopped pre-aggroing on the tank swap stuff.

I suspect it's bugged. Maybe it's just bad RNG.

I suspect bad RNG. You probably caught up to your tank in raw melee threat while they were torpor'd or something.

Originally Posted by Thordoff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Resists should be the same amount of aggro as if the spell landed. Therefore a raw hate proc offers no inherent advantage.

Yeah this is what I recall it to be, idk if it's working this way on p99 for all procs though (as I haven't tested them all :3)

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It offers a quantitative advantage.

Hah!

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well 288 hate from just the damage, obv doesnt include the stun

Detoxx just learned the sod has a stun component lol

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the guild tags should be removed from the Server First wiki page. It just looks dumb since none of the pre-Velious stuff has that.

Who cares? Let nerds have their little slice of internet history. You're not the wiki gatekeeper..[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Juevento]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I suspect bad RNG. You probably caught up to your tank in raw melee threat while they were torpor'd or something.(

Oh look, another piece of evidence that torporing tanks is in fact a bad idea.

[Legday]

Briefs/Cucu/Kegluas - sell me an SoD on the cheap so I can hang it over Detoxx's head. You will not regret it.

Also - procs don't need to land to generate the exact same amount of threat as they would have if they did land. Dump a mallet in to a dragon and it will never land a single click, but it rips and keeps agro all the same.

[Lanuven]

Originally Posted by Bruno [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Phinigel the live progression server. I'm curious to see if the results are the same. I was highly disappointed to get the results I did, specifically with the BoC. BoC has superior stats, awesome graphic, and the proc looks cool.

Our BoC will never have the proc. This is irrelevant. Also looks like a Lamentation = not awesome graphic.

[zanderklocke]

Originally Posted by Kagey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you just stick around wiki and these forums to be a complete asshole? You dont even play any more. Stop

There should be server firsts for all sets of ss/kael/thurg, lodi kill, shawl quest, scout tools, vaniki, willsapper.
Velious is a much bigger deal then oldworld peggy cloak server firsts.

I didn't delete that stuff.

I deleted stuff that said things like first guild to get suspended after class changes...

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by Lanuven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Our BoC will never have the proc. This is irrelevant. Also looks like a Lamentation = not awesome graphic.

Thanks for the education. Might be better suited for the starting zone posts. It's really not irrelevant if you were following the entire conversation. It's merely a comparison of weapons, especially since p99 is as you pointed out limited on weapons to compare SoD to. I'm sure a lot of people here played on live so they're tracking. Plus, I think we can have a conversation about live here if we want, no?

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Lanuven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Our BoC will never have the proc. This is irrelevant. Also looks like a Lamentation = not awesome graphic.

Perhaps...

I think a strong case can be made once we reach the Luclin launch date in our timeline the Devs may consider adding in Velious content that was changed in Luclin:

8th Shawl
Iksar epic quests (whistling fists, Necro skull, shaman cudgel, etc.)
Raid Gear Upgrades
Focus Effect Revamp
Essence Quests
Sleeper Resleeping (custom content quest)

Etc.

At this point, every mob in game can be killed with 80 players. Tunare and AoW included. Most every other target can be downed by 60. Increasing gear power isn't going to shift raid difficulty much at all, it would just make things a bit more interesting.

[khanable]

Addition of the boc proc would be hilarious

So many bards and rangers with big dick threat