a few unofficial rules for ip exemption

[Yak]

The problem is that it's all about perception. I understand that the GM's have their hands full but there has to be some guidelines or a warning. However, this is part of being responsible as well. Technically they don't have to do anything. However, I feel that ti would be a curious thing to do. They need to define what they consider to be dual boxing. Let's say you are grouping with the wife and a family emergency comes up and one of you has to deal with you child. One goes AFK for 30 mins or whatever. Are you telling me that you would get fucking banned for that. This would not be common but possible. It would be very helpful if the GM's could spend a few minutes and make a sticky section on this and don't just strike the ban hammer with out looking into it. Hey, other then that I am just great full to have this server to play on. However, I am sick of rehashing this same topic over and over again. It seems to be one of those topics that won't die on these forums until something is done about it.

Another easy way to fix it would be to just offer IP exceptions to people who make donations, why not? Problem solved.

[Ihealyou]

Originally Posted by Yak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another easy way to fix it would be to just offer IP exceptions to people who make donations, why not? Problem solved.

Besides being a terrible idea, this is a great idea. How would this fix anything?

[Swishahouse]

What I will never understand every time one of those bitch ass posts happen is why people assume these devs HAVE to be FAIR AND CORRECT all the time. Were just leeching off their time and effort 99% of users have never submitted a bug report or done anything to enhance the project even in the smallest of ways. If they want to ban you for any reason you're simply torched! Coming on these Rogean Uthboards and going turbo qq over it is definitely not going to help your cause at all. In fact, you'll get trolled out, butthurt and ZOMGZ still banned!

[Swishahouse]

BTW I know for a fact that when the GMs do check up on people with IP exemptions they do observe for a time before making a decision about whether or not the player was infact boxing.

[Rahnza]

Originally Posted by Jaxon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP sounds reasonable, coherent, and argues his position logically and forcefully. Uthgaard can't come up with a good excuse to save his life. Judgment in favor of the accused.

[Timzilla]

Originally Posted by rioisk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is a friend from halfway across the world going afk while you get him experience functionally different from 2-boxing? Answer: You aren't him.

Answer here: I'm not my bro.

Had we been tested this would have been apparent. Instead, a ban was issued without question.


Perhaps I should present a broader scenario here. Two people aren't on the same connection in a similar configuration - a guy could just as easily rig a computer at work or a friends house and set the character afk. Would he be instantly banned for boxing? No, he doesn't even have an IP exemption. He's just some dude and "another dude afk". So is going afk while another person gets you experience against the rules? For this to be consistent it must be.

Diabolical plan there...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Duj2oZIC8U

[Timzilla]

Originally Posted by Yak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem is that it's all about perception. I understand that the GM's have their hands full but there has to be some guidelines or a warning. However, this is part of being responsible as well. Technically they don't have to do anything. However, I feel that ti would be a curious thing to do. They need to define what they consider to be dual boxing. Let's say you are grouping with the wife and a family emergency comes up and one of you has to deal with you child. One goes AFK for 30 mins or whatever. Are you telling me that you would get fucking banned for that. This would not be common but possible. It would be very helpful if the GM's could spend a few minutes and make a sticky section on this and don't just strike the ban hammer with out looking into it. Hey, other then that I am just great full to have this server to play on. However, I am sick of rehashing this same topic over and over again. It seems to be one of those topics that won't die on these forums until something is done about it.

Another easy way to fix it would be to just offer IP exceptions to people who make donations, why not? Problem solved.

How is yor scenario confusing in the least bit? Does the wife not know there's a camp/quit button?

[rioisk]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The most amusing part of these rage threads is how they always try to preface it with some pretense that they're doing really doing it to champion some righteous fight against injustice. Because, y'know, they'd never do it just to bawwwww.

The biggest tragedy is that this detail was left out:

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I don't feel I'm raging. Sure it's a messed up situation but I'm trying my best to present myself as clearly as possible. You are the one who seems to be raging with immediate character attacks/mockery.

Beside the point, your reply make me wonder if you lack trust or meaningful relationships in your life. Why do you assume I'm:

...they always try to preface it with some pretense that they're doing really doing it to champion some righteous fight against injustice.

Did you ever stop to think that may be I'm doing it because I realize after this experience that GMs here act like nazis with their decisions? May be if you knew our situation you'd know why I am intent on making sure people are aware of what goes on here. All I should say is, coming from knowing how much husband/wives, best friends, roommates, and so forth enjoy playing this game together, I think it's important for them to know so they don't accidentally arrive in similar situations and unknowingly face a ban.

My bro was unsure if he wanted to play in the first place, but after this event he laughed and asked me "Why would you want to be play on a server with GMs like that?". With all things considered, I can't help but agree.

So before you arrive at all sorts of assumption, perhaps you should take a breather and realize that not everybody here is out to lie, cheat, and steal, and genuinely just want to follow the rules and have a good time.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Yak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's say you are grouping with the wife and a family emergency comes up and one of you has to deal with you child. One goes AFK for 30 mins or whatever. Are you telling me that you would get fucking banned for that.

"I have to go AFK 30 mins to spank our child."

"Okay, well, camp out here... we do have an IP exemption, you know. It'll look like we're multi-boxing."

"But we're totally not multi-boxing. The GMs should be able to see that."

"Yeah, they can't tell the difference... two people in close proximity, both characters on the same IP address, one not moving... would look pretty fishy to everyone. And I'm sure actual multi-boxers use the "my wife had to go AFK to beat our kids" all the time. So just log out."

"Thanks, honey... I understand now! You saved us from getting banned!"

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[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by rioisk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you ever stop to think that may be I'm doing it because I realize after this experience that GMs here act like nazis with their decisions? May be if you knew our situation you'd know why I am intent on making sure people are aware of what goes on here. All I should say is, coming from knowing how much husband/wives, best friends, roommates, and so forth enjoy playing this game together, I think it's important for them to know so they don't accidentally arrive in similar situations and unknowingly face a ban.

I should think the common sense that comes from:

"Multi-boxing is bannable here, therefore we should not appear to do anything that could be misconstrued as multi-boxing."

should be sufficient.