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Old 03-11-2016, 05:21 PM
thewrush thewrush is offline
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Most players are like this. Unfortunately the min-maxers like to be vocal about their opinion and LOVE to make anyone who isn't playing like they do feel like shit about their choices.

Classic example are the debates over monk/necro iksar. They make it sound like if you don't go iksar these classes are completely unplayable and will be worthless when in reality the benefit is nowhere near as significant as they like to claim.

In-game example, had people deny a rogue(post epic nerf) because he didn't have his epic. The rogue wasn't even lvl40. Promptly left the group, leaving them without a tank because f*** players like this.
Thank you for this. Everytime I try (very rarely) to find a group as a WIZARD I get the vibe "We are waiting for hours until an epic Rogue shows up" before I get an invite. Seriously, people are so effing spoiled for groups on this server. Live was nothing like this with every rogue running around with epic since level 1....
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Old 03-11-2016, 05:57 PM
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Thank you for this. Everytime I try (very rarely) to find a group as a WIZARD I get the vibe "We are waiting for hours until an epic Rogue shows up" before I get an invite. Seriously, people are so effing spoiled for groups on this server. Live was nothing like this with every rogue running around with epic since level 1....
Its funny because I remember as a newb Wizard, I must have been completely ignorant of this. Most low to mid level groups didn't care who filled out the rest once a tank, and healer, got established. Things definitely started changing in the mid 40's. Much harder to get into groups, and if I didn't have clarity even I, as ignorant as I was, knew I was useless.

But by then I bought j boots and could quad kite.
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Old 03-11-2016, 06:29 PM
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Its funny because I remember as a newb Wizard, I must have been completely ignorant of this. Most low to mid level groups didn't care who filled out the rest once a tank, and healer, got established. Things definitely started changing in the mid 40's. Much harder to get into groups, and if I didn't have clarity even I, as ignorant as I was, knew I was useless.

But by then I bought j boots and could quad kite.
This actually happened to me on Live. I grouped up all through my lower levels following the nro->oasis->loio->fm->ot path that was so common in those days. After that things dropped off precipitously and quad kiting became my saving grace, or just dungeon crawling with friends.

I did get a fair amount of xp in raids, at least; as a wizard you can usually ensure your group gets xp at least every once in awhile.
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Old 03-10-2016, 05:25 PM
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I rolled my first character who is a Human SK maybe little over a month or so ago, I am lvl 27 right now. I don't play all the time and I spend a lot of down time figuring out where I want to go haha. I went the first 15 levels with gear i looted and bought from NPC merchants. I was on my way to Freeport from Qeynos, when I was picking off some Gnolls outside of High Pass a lvl 60 druid came up to me and said my gear was terrible. I was rocking a mixture of patchwork/leather as I was saving my plat for a weapon, he asked me if this was my main and how long I had been playing he was then nice enough to port me to W Commons. When we got there he went to the bank hooked me up with a couple pieces of Sentient Armor and giant scalemail, along with a Sharkbone War Hammer. I got lucky, I then joined a guild and bought a 2hander for a decent price off a guildie.

My advice is start whatever you would like but don't get frustrated, I was worried about my crappy gear because i was proud to self finance myself. But a magic weapon is a must because you will run into undead which are invulnerable to regular weapons. I sorta feel like I cheated some by taking donations, but since this is my main and only character I dont regret it, if I decide I may do an alt and make the attempt to self finance my way.
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Old 03-11-2016, 04:45 PM
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Tbh that role of "no role" sounds good. Little responsibility, dont have to show up early and there is tons of knight specific loot with little to no competition for it. Sounds like you show up for the fun, dont deal with the drama and stress and come out with maxed fashionquest.
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Old 03-11-2016, 05:17 PM
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You can play any of the race/class combos you want. Some will be easier than others but in general you should be fine.

Your first goal would be to get to level 9 for your spells. Depending on where you start you should also try and make enough plat to get someone to make you banded armor (90pp or so). EC tunnel should have someone that can blacksmith it for you.

Once you reach level 9 try and get a magic weapon. Any magic weapon will do. Kill willowisps until you have a bunch of Greater Lightstones. Go to South Ro's dark elf gypsy camp, turn in the stones, and sell the books for 10pp each. Once you have a few hundred (or thousand if you are into grinding) plat get a better weapon/shield. If you can get 500pp or so get a pair of 5ac/55hp rings. You can do this as a pally or a SK.

If you are a goodie and start in Qeynos I suggest doing the Rabid Wolf Pelt and Bandit Sash quests.

If you can be ~15 with banded and a decent ratio weapon (a .5 ratio weapon preferably, so like 9/18 or 20/40) and 2 55HP rings you'll be set up pretty well for the long run.
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Old 03-11-2016, 05:26 PM
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Avoid blue and roll your new characters on red.

When you play blue you hit max level and unless you have 16hour play times you have little chance of doing anything new or meaningful and eventually burn out. Thousands and thousands of blue players have followed this path.

On the red server, you still have a majority of the people who were there on day one. Those who left have been banned or ostracized by the community. We run a tight ship.

It is what it is and those are the major differences. You can go blue and be char#1,245,576 or you can go red and be somebody who makes a difference.
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Old 03-11-2016, 06:41 PM
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:01 PM
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Avoid blue and roll your new characters on red.

When you play blue you hit max level and unless you have 16hour play times you have little chance of doing anything new or meaningful and eventually burn out. Thousands and thousands of blue players have followed this path.

On the red server, you still have a majority of the people who were there on day one. Those who left have been banned or ostracized by the community. We run a tight ship.

It is what it is and those are the major differences. You can go blue and be char#1,245,576 or you can go red and be somebody who makes a difference.
Yeah but then don't you get ganked and lose items?
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:04 PM
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Yeah but then don't you get ganked and lose items?
No, there's no item loot on Red.
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