Dumpster Fire (RED99) - Page 4

Seltius · #31 03-02-2016, 02:46 PM

I read every post in this thread.

I tend to agree with some of the points here with the exception of the OP who is definitely the whiner who continuously cries about his surname like it matters to anyone but him. I think a lot of the issues between the 2 servers are due to ignorance where someone plays on a server for a day or 2 has a bad experience or even just reads the forums and automatically forms an opinion that they see based on fact. I don't think either player base is really trying to force their views on the other server beyond the trolls like OP. They just want to try and help each server. Red really needs an infusion of new blood and honestly Blue could stand to lose some of the more aggressive players to an environment that encourages that aggression.

The main difference unless something is changed on Blue is that 100% of the populace on Red can interact through /ooc where as on Blue you only have to worry about the tools in your own zone.

/shrug love it or hate it matters not to most here. It is all about the next desperate cry for attention. OP we await another plea for your surname always entertaining.

thufir · #32 03-02-2016, 02:48 PM

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Much of Red's population struggles really have to do with when it was released and its inability for the population to snowball.

Nostalrius Red sits around 10k users and Nostalrius Blue which came way later hangs out around 3k. So many Red Nostalrius players wanted a Blue server and they got it - yet Red is still packed full of Chinese gold farmers and tons of other people still grinding away without a mass exodus of player base.

P99 Red's release in comparison to Blue doomed the server from the get go. Also consider this - - P99 was released in 2009, when WoW was still very much in full swing. As the years have passed much of the P99 player base has become former WoW players who had heard so much about EQ yet never played. The Red server is a ghost town, they go Blue.

Also, EQ is infinitely "harder" (i.e. not nubby) than WoW so all the WoW nubs are reluctant to join Red and they come right over to Blue and warmbody for poopsockfest, accepting it as absolutely normal behavior and "fun"

The "raid" cabal says "sure, more warmbodies for us, more loot for us, win fucking win, we don't give a flying fuck about the spirit of EQ and we don't give a single flying fuck about this server with absolute WoW nub shitheads"

After years of Petitionquest and Lawyerquest, it has become evident that the only answer for the shitshow that Blue has become is PvP, like it or not. Lawyerquest sucks. Poopsockquest sucks. Someone FRAPSing you in fucking KC for "training" them and petitioning a GM fucking sucks. Back before FRAPSquest people would "PvP" each other by KSing, training, and randomly buffing and weaponizing mobs all the time. Its part of the game.

If you talk to anybody from a live Red server they always talk about how much fun it was. Because it fucking was.

If P99 Red had come out before Blue, it would probably have a similar population pattern to Nostalrius. People would roll Blue sure, but so many people would have all their loots on Red and wouldn't want to leave them behind. Also consider...no Chardok AOE which completely ruined the game by filling the top level player base with absolute nubs that shouldn't have gotten to 60 in the first place, and no lawyerquest.

People might say there would just be one massive zerg guild killing everybody else, but I doubt that too. There are enough different neckbeard factions that have come and gone on P99 over the years were there would likely be several guilds battling each other constantly for loot and drops. In a server population of 1000, would 500+ players at any given time be in one guild? I find that hard to believe considering how "ambitious" some of these neckbeards are.

My point is, everyone who knocks Red sounds like a bunch of nub crybaby bloobs, because thats what they are. PvP is the answer to Lawyerquest and its never going to happen. I elect not to poopsock and join a guild full of nubs that can't hack dungeon content and just sit at the entrance of ToV every weekend waiting for durgins. Been there, done that and it fucking sucks.

Blue is far more of a dumpster fire than Red 99, and that is tough to dispute.

Back on live, one of my friends on Xegony was a transfer over from RZ. Played a necro there for a long time. He enjoyed the extra dimension it added to some extent, but in the end he preferred the blue interactions. Red makes everquest different, and not necessarily better.

I think it's a different dynamic than WoW because you generally played WoW for the pvp. The pve was never very engaging, except maybe at the beginning of vanilla and close to the level cap, when people were still struggling for the blue dungeon sets, and places like Stratholme and Scholomance hadn't been nerfed. (Let's not speak of Molten Core, which was a boring raid instance in a long tradition of boring raid instances.) I loved on wow when I had to fight some opposite faction guy for the rights to a gathering node, or when I bumped into some red named dude in the middle of a boring quest series. Because the open world pve especially was incredibly dull - a bunch of single player content with super easy mobs and mindless quest grinds.

I played blue eq, and red wow. I even left a blue server on wow to go red, and did not look back; rolled on several red servers after that. Wow pvp is just better, a lot better, and the open world pvp was engaging and fun. So I don't think these comparisons are particularly valid.

The top end raid scene may well be a clusterfuck here on blue, iono, ain't got time for that. But it's not anywhere close to a dumpster fire from 1-59. I'm having more fun on here than I did on live, because I selected a good grouping class this time. And I enjoy exploring dungeons with my group and not having to worry about random pvpers wrecking me while I'm doing something on the bubble of my abilities.

tl;dr: eq was made for pve, wow for pvp, so comparing the two games is kinda silly.

Spyder73 · #33 03-02-2016, 02:58 PM

Some of you red conspiratards have inspired a short story out of me. I present you...

THE STATE VS PROJECT 1999 RED
By Tekilya Wu'Tang

The defendants lawyer, Johnny Law, sat in the courtroom awaiting his turn to speak. The trail had begun more than 4 years and closing arguments were about to take place.

Ok Johnny, its your time to shine, this kid paid you a lot of money to get him off, Johnny thought

The judge nodded to Johnny, indicating that it was his turn to speak.

“Ladies and gentleman of the jury. As we near the end of this trial, I implore you to keep your mind to its purpose. This young man (red server) never stood a chance. His parents neglected him emotionally as a child, he has mental development issues, he was put in a no win situation, his dog was killed by police officers, anyone would have reacted the same way he did ! Please show mercy to this poor, mistreated, misunderstood man.”

Nailed it, Johnny thought to himself as he smirked at the prosecutor and returned to his seat.

The judge, stern faced as ever, nodded towards the prosecutor that it was his turn.

“Ladies and gentleman of the jury. This man kidnapped a mother of 5, skinned her body and dismembered her face in order to make a suit and mask out of the flesh. He then returned to her house 2 week later to murder her remaining family members and children WHILE wearing the flesh suit. The defendant tied the children up and made them play house with him for hours before he finally slit their throats. This was on the eve of the poor mothers funeral. The prosecution seeks the death penalty.”

Ahh shit Johnny thought has he lowered his head into his hands I forgot about the suit...

Fame · #34 03-02-2016, 03:07 PM

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Some of you red conspiratards have inspired a short story out of me. I present you...

THE STATE VS PROJECT 1999 RED
By Tekilya Wu'Tang

The defendants lawyer, Johnny Law, sat in the courtroom awaiting his turn to speak. The trail had begun more than 4 years and closing arguments were about to take place.

Ok Johnny, its your time to shine, this kid paid you a lot of money to get him off, Johnny thought

The judge nodded to Johnny, indicating that it was his turn to speak.

“Ladies and gentleman of the jury. As we near the end of this trial, I implore you to keep your mind to its purpose. This young man (red server) never stood a chance. His parents neglected him emotionally as a child, he has mental development issues, he was put in a no win situation, his dog was killed by police officers, anyone would have reacted the same way he did ! Please show mercy to this poor, mistreated, misunderstood man.”

Nailed it, Johnny thought to himself as he smirked at the prosecutor and returned to his seat.

The judge, stern faced as ever, nodded towards the prosecutor that it was his turn.

“Ladies and gentleman of the jury. This man kidnapped a mother of 5, skinned her body and dismembered her face in order to make a suit and mask out of the flesh. He then returned to her house 2 week later to murder her remaining family members and children WHILE wearing the flesh suit. The defendant tied the children up and made them play house with him for hours before he finally slit their throats. This was on the eve of the poor mothers funeral. The prosecution seeks the death penalty.”

Ahh shit Johnny thought has he lowered his head into his hands I forgot about the suit...

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iruinedyourday · #35 03-02-2016, 03:19 PM

wow if you like playing with toxic players like OP that like to use swear words on the forums then i guess (BLUE99) is the place to be.

iruinedyourday · #36 03-02-2016, 03:22 PM

also blue is the server for OOC names like Wu'tang and Snapple and Enterprise Rent'acar

derpcake · #37 03-02-2016, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some of you red conspiratards have inspired a short story out of me. I present you...

THE STATE VS PROJECT 1999 RED
By Tekilya Wu'Tang

The defendants lawyer, Johnny Law, sat in the courtroom awaiting his turn to speak. The trail had begun more than 4 years and closing arguments were about to take place.

Ok Johnny, its your time to shine, this kid paid you a lot of money to get him off, Johnny thought

The judge nodded to Johnny, indicating that it was his turn to speak.

“Ladies and gentleman of the jury. As we near the end of this trial, I implore you to keep your mind to its purpose. This young man (red server) never stood a chance. His parents neglected him emotionally as a child, he has mental development issues, he was put in a no win situation, his dog was killed by police officers, anyone would have reacted the same way he did ! Please show mercy to this poor, mistreated, misunderstood man.”

Nailed it, Johnny thought to himself as he smirked at the prosecutor and returned to his seat.

The judge, stern faced as ever, nodded towards the prosecutor that it was his turn.

“Ladies and gentleman of the jury. This man kidnapped a mother of 5, skinned her body and dismembered her face in order to make a suit and mask out of the flesh. He then returned to her house 2 week later to murder her remaining family members and children WHILE wearing the flesh suit. The defendant tied the children up and made them play house with him for hours before he finally slit their throats. This was on the eve of the poor mothers funeral. The prosecution seeks the death penalty.”

Ahh shit Johnny thought has he lowered his head into his hands I forgot about the suit...

at first i considered your avatar tasteless, but now i see, kindred souls or some shit

derpcake · #38 03-02-2016, 03:28 PM

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wow if you like playing with toxic players like OP that like to use swear words on the forums then i guess (BLUE99) is the place to be.

guy uses a macequest avatar and is relentlessly angry at red

guy is crying about wutang as a surname, based on historical reasons, yet used the wutang copyrighted symbol

seems reasonable

got down-voted in public by Sirken

looks safe

glad i'm not in the US, i'd feel the need to warn authorities

Ravager · #39 03-02-2016, 03:33 PM

The reason anyone comes to Project 1999 at all is to try to recapture the essence of classic Everquest.

I don't know if anybody noticed, but Red is not classic.

Seltius · #40 03-02-2016, 03:33 PM

Spyder should recuse himself from this as he has already been caught committing perjury. I present the evidence.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=229516
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=229952
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=229873
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=229893
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=229712
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=229249

Now I can appreciate and respect imagination as much as the next person but there is clearly a pattern of instability when it comes to your obsession over a surname. I do believe all of these were started within the last 2-3 weeks which shows a downward spiral that fits the 3rd stage of obsessive personality.(having trouble remembering the exact term)

Oh and this was just scanning the first 3 pages of Blue RNF this wasn't looking at your posting history or having access to in game or forum petitions.