I am not allowed to xp in KC on Sunday?

[Expediency]

Originally Posted by Tuljin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, its just that good EQ players move their XP bars, and a 6-man LCY group is quite possibly the worst and least fun way you can do that. Apart from the fact that the bar moves at a snails pace, the nubs that frequent KC are not fun to play with and the actual content of the zone is not particularly challenging or fun either. Its old old news, my friend.

I wouldn't try to tell a veteran EQ player that "KC is excellent" with a straight face. Get a Seb and HS key and get some actual XP in actually fun and challenging zones. KC sucks.

You neckbeards wont be happy until everyone plays exactly like you want them to. I gave my reasoning for why KC is excellent, and you failed to respond to the vast majority of it. I'm glad you dont care for it; more room for me. I also enjoy pick up groups with random people so thats not a downside.

Sure, per kill you will do better in some other places, but for the most part you have to bring your own group, you have to travel there, and services are not available 24/7. Those things take time and effort that could be spent immediately grinding in KC.

If I have a limited amount of time to play that day, KC is one of the best options on p99 50-55. Period. I'm not going to spend half of my two hours finding a group and running somewhere exotic just to get 30% more exp per kill. Thats less efficient given my timeframe and leaves me camped out somewhere that may be abandoned when I log back on. Seb is very good for sure, and better than KC no doubt if you get a group, but if you dont get a group you are stuck there, having spent 15 minutes+ running there plus buying a port both ways. And seb groups are not open to all classes.

[Pokesan]

let's all be elitist about video games!

[Spyder73]

Originally Posted by Expediency [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You neckbeards wont be happy until everyone plays exactly like you want them to. I gave my reasoning for why KC is excellent, and you failed to respond to the vast majority of it. I'm glad you dont care for it; more room for me. I also enjoy pick up groups with random people so thats not a downside.

Sure, per kill you will do better in some other places, but for the most part you have to bring your own group, you have to travel there, and services are not available 24/7. Those things take time and effort that could be spent immediately grinding in KC.

If I have a limited amount of time to play that day, KC is one of the best options on p99 50-55. Period. I'm not going to spend half of my two hours finding a group and running somewhere exotic just to get 30% more exp per kill. Thats less efficient given my timeframe and leaves me camped out somewhere that may be abandoned when I log back on. Seb is very good for sure, and better than KC no doubt if you get a group, but if you don’t get a group you are stuck there, having spent 15 minutes+ running there plus buying a port both ways. And seb groups are not open to all classes.

Seb is still a bring your own group zone in my opinion. It's probably easier to pick up group there now that Velious is out, I really don't know. People who hate on KC are the same ones who will tell you that Kedge Keep is the greatest zone in the game – It’s not - if you have any trouble at all the recovery is excruciating. Try wiping down in HS or even Seb and tell me that its better than KC for casual play – it’s not

[Troxx]

KC is a fine place to xp. It does suck when it gets over crowded.

-It's easily accessible.
-It's not overly harsh.
-Nearly 24 hours a day there's the prospect of finding a group or a duo/trio.
-The xp per kill in a full group really drops hard after 56, but duo/trio it's ok to 60 and easy enough that most classes can duo there.

I've done all camps in velks and seb multiple times. I've grouped in chardok and HS. I haven't done SG or DN yet on p99. KC isn't bad by comparison and is better by far than velks. I'd prefer a seb or BM velks group any day of the week, but if you have a limited play time KC is awfully convenient. In a lot of the "better" places, getting a group outside a pre made is more challenging ... As is replacing a crucial member that has to leave. In a bring your own group type of scenario, there are lots better places than KC.

KC is fine.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

KC as an exp spot is classic. Maybe not my cup of tea except basement, but so what? For the life of me I cannot understand why anyone would criticize someone for grinding there, except it's Monday and they got sand in their vagina.

#kcexpmatters

[Sage Truthbearer]

Originally Posted by Tuljin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, its just that good EQ players move their XP bars, and a 6-man LCY group is quite possibly the worst and least fun way you can do that. Apart from the fact that the bar moves at a snails pace, the nubs that frequent KC are not fun to play with and the actual content of the zone is not particularly challenging or fun either. Its old old news, my friend.

I wouldn't try to tell a veteran EQ player that "KC is excellent" with a straight face. Get a Seb and HS key and get some actual XP in actually fun and challenging zones. KC sucks.

I like KC, I also like HS and Seb.

Even if I didn't like KC, it doesn't affect me if other people like to have fun playing Everquest differently than how I do, and I wouldn't feel the need to "convince" them the way they're having fun is wrong.

[Ele]

More of the same.

Did you know people deguild (or used to at least) to turn in Dozekar tears/Yelinak/tormax/dain heads otherwise they could be considered an extra puller/tracker and cause their guild to violate the raid rules?

[Getsmurfed]

Originally Posted by eadric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The suspension that set this precedent was levied against BDA a few years ago. There was a group xp'ing at King/zone out when Trakanon popped. BDA got the kill, then TMO rule lawyers went to work with the result of a one week suspension and loot being deleted. People who just want to xp in peace have been paying the price ever since. This community is the way it is because we the players have made it this way... food for thought.

I do believe BDA was killing reets / juggs with a small raid force inside the castle past shrooms. Maybe they were pulling King to there, but it's food for thought. An individual person wouldn't strike as skirting rules, multiple groups is another thing.

[Hoozi]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you don't care about raiding VS and want to exp you can leave the guild until he spawns and not participate in the fight and then rejoin your guild after he's dead.

I know it sounds dumb/crazy (it pretty much is) but this is what people do and it is an accepted practice. In ToV people who are ready to complete dragon quests drop their guild and then do the turn ins when the dragon spawns. They get their quest item and do not partake in the fight, rejoining their guild after it is over.

People should get suspended for circumventing the rules like this. You guys brought this on yourselves with your coth ducking bullshit etc, so reap what you sow.

[JackFlash]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More of the same.

Did you know people deguild (or used to at least) to turn in Dozekar tears/Yelinak/tormax/dain heads otherwise they could be considered an extra puller/tracker and cause their guild to violate the raid rules?

Wipe it.