There is no “skill” in Everquest

[Kergan]

Not trying to be a downer here, but if I were server staff I would be more concerned with keeping the 85% of my total playerbase who plays on blue interested than trying to appease the 15% who play on PVP.

The best thing for everyone would be for them to essentially "loan" their code to someone who cares about building a good PVP server. Not holding my breath on that though.

[Vile]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The best thing for everyone would be for them to essentially "loan" their code to someone who cares about building a good PVP server. Not holding my breath on that though.

Yea... but like you said.. never gonna happen.

P99 will go on... with or without a PvP server.

[Kergan]

Maybe some day, Nilbog and Rogean will decide they want to bail and open up the source code. I understand why they keep it under lock and key, it is the bread and butter of the only legitimized emu in MMORPG history. In a lot of ways, they changed the entire industry.

I can also understand that they are working stiffs who do this on their free time, in addition to other things they probably enjoy doing in their free time. So, when you're taking a fraction of a fraction of your time it makes sense to dedicate it to where it'll have the highest impact (i.e. where 85% of your users reside).

There are people who would absolutely jump at the chance to develop a custom PVP server utilizing the code of P99. Just bring one of those people on staff ffs, and give everyone what they want.

[EatitNerd]

Originally Posted by Jazzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dunno bros

compare gasoline and riding

gear cant be that much different can it?

Whole different league of ability


(edit: no offence intended - just the example most here can probably get)

Jazzy it's confirmed that you haven't ever been seen by riding or gasoline in game so how would you know? Either of them would beat anyone in your guild in a 1v1 (not too hard, especially with OP windstriker).

Also gear gap even between those 2 are pretty big considering gaso has a life and for a couple months there was very casual raiding. 2 weeks ago I would have pointed out you all were just scared of someone that just had silver chains as his only real velious loot lol

Loot HistoryDateNameRaid
01/26/16 Sleeper's Key Lord Yelinak
01/14/16 Feeliux's Cord of Velocity Vulak'Aerr
12/02/15 Shovel of the Harvest Gozzrem
11/19/15 Melodic Necklace Aaryonar
11/19/15 Katana of Pain Aaryonar
11/18/15 Amulet of Necropotence Cazic Thule
10/14/15 Mithril Boots Lady Mirenilla
09/20/15 Mithril Gauntlets Lady Mirenilla
09/14/15 Tanglewood Shield Wuoshi
08/16/15 Hammer of Battle Statue of Rallos Zek
08/12/15 Silver Girdle of Stability Lendiniara the Keeper


Compared to

02/11/16 Shovel of the Harvest Gozzrem
02/10/16 Sleeper's Key Lendiniara the Keeper
02/02/16 Tolan`s Longsword of the Glade Vulak'Aerr
02/02/16 Mithril Boots Lady Mirenilla
01/06/16 Silver Chains Jorlleag
08/08/15 Nevedaria's Claw Lady Nevedaria

[Kevynne]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I regret to inform you there is skill involved

only if you're a melee

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Kevynne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

only if you're a melee

Given my time in OOT and watching other wizards chase Smallmee with a winged death on them until they got to 30% and he finished them as they tried to gate...

I'd say there's a pretty wide skill gap

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Given my time in OOT and watching other wizards chase Smallmee with a winged death on them until they got to 30% and he finished them as they tried to gate...

I'd say there's a pretty wide skill gap

It is knowledge vs skill. This is not a skill game. It is knowing what you should do in certain situations... and in this game I'm not talking about lightning fast decisions. You have plenty of time to set up your buff order and then when a winged death hits you, casually think, oh I should dispel this.

If you make the mistake of chasing down someone with a dot on you it should only be a 1 time mistake.

[Kevynne]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is knowledge vs skill. This is not a skill game. It is knowing what you should do in certain situations... and in this game I'm not talking about lightning fast decisions. You have plenty of time to set up your buff order and then when a winged death hits you, casually think, oh I should dispel this.

If you make the mistake of chasing down someone with a dot on you it should only be a 1 time mistake.

The only skill i believe is in the game is jousting for melees, but that may be because i'm terrible at playing melees

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is knowledge vs skill. This is not a skill game. It is knowing what you should do in certain situations... and in this game I'm not talking about lightning fast decisions. You have plenty of time to set up your buff order and then when a winged death hits you, casually think, oh I should dispel this.

If you make the mistake of chasing down someone with a dot on you it should only be a 1 time mistake.

call it what you want, it was just someone being absolutely turrible at the game

I bind sighted many of these fights and frowned hard as fuck

[easy_lee]

Knowledge: What you need to know to be good at the game. Ex: how to corner cast, zone layout, which spells to cast on who and how likely they are to be resisted.

Skill: reflexes, visual cues, and muscle memory used to execute commands properly. Ex: jousting, being able to corner cast without a corner.

It's pedantic. Suffice it to say that there is a large gap between total newbies and veterans.