RELEASE LUCLIN ON RED

[Colgate]

would rather see a server wipe and restart in classic than adding more zones/content

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Bokke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin was a great expansion.

Not sure the population of RED99 could really sustain it but maybe AAs/ safe zones etc would bring more blue players over.

Now that Velious is out id be more in favour of a new classic server that follows a classic timeline through to a possible Luclin release.

I think the hope would be with AA's, more people would be online. I have no reason to be on right now while I'm sitting on hold @ work, because there's nothing to do other than get ganked and plug and/or click a CT pot and get killed lost in the maze. Luclin, or AA's, gives me a reason to be online grinding, which provides more PvP opportunities, more people playing, more groups, more EXP chances for newer players struggling to find groups, etc., etc., etc.

[Bokke]

Originally Posted by Jarlon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is what unmotivated and lower tier players said about the key, truth is it can pretty easily done in a day or two at neckbeard levels of play. Most people were extremely casual back then, The entire key has several times taken me less time than the average pained soul lol. I even at one point xfered to the legends server and had my key done in one day along with the friend i came with. Hard key lol

I just don't believe you. You either did this much later on the timeline or you got extremely lucky.

SSRA part alone would take weeks because you did it in groups and generally speaking would need to stick around while your partners also got the piece.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

would rather see a server wipe and restart in classic than adding more zones/content

A meaningful comment, coming from an officer in the top guild who dominates content. If even the people with the most to lose are willing to nuke the server to rebuild it from the ground up so more people can enjoy it then maybe it is time the staff takes a good hard look at their stance on a wipe.

I personally would flush my 5 level 60s down the toilet tomorrow if I could play on a legit vanilla only FFA PVP server with P99 code.

[Bokke]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

would rather see a server wipe and restart in classic than adding more zones/content

Why not both? Classic server, classic timeline, with the hint of a promise of more to come after Velious. I really believe the promise of Velious during Kunark kept people immersed.

Originally Posted by Heartbrank

I think the hope would be with AA's, more people would be online. I have no reason to be on right now while I'm sitting on hold @ work, because there's nothing to do other than get ganked and plug and/or click a CT pot and get killed lost in the maze. Luclin, or AA's, gives me a reason to be online grinding, which provides more PvP opportunities, more people playing, more groups, more EXP chances for newer players struggling to find groups, etc., etc., etc.

Another benefit of AAs was they kept people playing their main characters. I genuinely think they improved the PvP landscape too, with a few exceptions: deathtouch should not one shot out of the gates (it was nerfed very fast on live anyway), and the instant exodus line of AAs is unnecessary on a custom server.

A Luclin server in my mind would also be more attractive to blue players with safe trading hubs and enough serious raid content for 3 guilds the size of Empire.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Bokke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't believe you. You either did this much later on the timeline or you got extremely lucky.

SSRA part alone would take weeks because you did it in groups and generally speaking would need to stick around while your partners also got the piece.

Yeah, one day my ass. I got moderately lucky on 3 of the 10 key pieces and it still took a week of me and my bro taking turns camping that shit.

[Redi]

Originally Posted by krazyGlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wish I was in the same guild with you ? Lol

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[Colgate]

there are just a few insanely stupid things about luclin pvp that turn it off completely to me, like you mentioned instant druid evac AA, nexus gate, manaburn, ancient bard mez, etc.

[grannock]

We lost, no point, server sucks, wipe it all. Logical progression of thoughts.

[Bokke]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there are just a few insanely stupid things about luclin pvp that turn it off completely to me, like you mentioned instant druid evac AA, nexus gate, manaburn, ancient bard mez, etc.

These things weren't too bad on live due to the server populations and the the size of end game guildvsguild pvp, that said, instant druid EVAC has no place on a custom low population red server. Id advocate for that being removed from the start.

Manaburn and Deathtouch were later on changed to only do 75% of a target's health, that was a quality of life change made for pvp.

I don't think ancient bard mez came out until Planes of Power? In any case I didn't mind it too much. On a brand new server there would only be a handful of cure shields anyway.