Don't get a flu shot!

[barrettdc1]

You never go full retard.

[Troxx]

Spanish flu of 1918 ... End of discussion.

Even with our modern advances there were plenty of cases of perfectly healthy people in their 20s dying to H1N1 several years back. The reason people were so worried about The swine flu was that unlike more common strains of Influenza A (that typically hit the very old very young and very sick), that subtype had a nasty habit of also knocking off perfectly young and healthy people.

Influenza is not some pussy-cat of an illness. Best case scenario it just makes you feel like dog shit for 4-5 days. Worst case scenario, it'll put you 6 feet under.

Vaccinating the individual is a public service. The more people that get their shot, the exponentially fewer people get sick.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spanish flu of 1918 ... End of discussion.

Even with our modern advances there were plenty of cases of perfectly healthy people in their 20s dying to H1N1 several years back. The reason people were so worried about The swine flu was that unlike more common strains of Influenza A (that typically hit the very old very young and very sick), that subtype had a nasty habit of also knocking off perfectly young and healthy people.

Influenza is not some pussy-cat of an illness. Best case scenario it just makes you feel like dog shit for 4-5 days. Worst case scenario, it'll put you 6 feet under.

Vaccinating the individual is a public service. The more people that get their shot, the exponentially fewer people get sick.

Darwin awards incoming i guess

[Troxx]

A quick search on google yields a quick overview of the 1918-1919 Flu pandemic.

https://virus.stanford.edu/uda/

In the fall of 1918 the Great War in Europe was winding down and peace was on the horizon. The Americans had joined in the fight, bringing the Allies closer to victory against the Germans. Deep within the trenches these men lived through some of the most brutal conditions of life, which it seemed could not be any worse. Then, in pockets across the globe, something erupted that seemed as benign as the common cold. The influenza of that season, however, was far more than a cold. In the two years that this scourge ravaged the earth, a fifth of the world's population was infected. The flu was most deadly for people ages 20 to 40. This pattern of morbidity was unusual for influenza which is usually a killer of the elderly and young children. It infected 28% of all Americans (Tice). An estimated 675,000 Americans died of influenza during the pandemic, ten times as many as in the world war. Of the U.S. soldiers who died in Europe, half of them fell to the influenza virus and not to the enemy (Deseret News). An estimated 43,000 servicemen mobilized for WWI died of influenza (Crosby). 1918 would go down as unforgettable year of suffering and death and yet of peace. As noted in the Journal of the American Medical Association final edition of 1918:

And yeah, just be aware that our regularly used anti-virals for influenza aren't really a silver bullet. They can help, but for the most part even in an ICU you're looking at supportive care and crossing your fingers. If something that virulent makes the rounds again in the absence of a vaccine ready to thwart it ... there will be neither enough Tamiflu in US pharmacies nor ICU beds within US hospitals to care for those that get disproportionately ill. So why does the US govt push the flu shot so hard each year? That's why.

That's the nasty thing about influenza ... it's really damn contagious, and both the virulence and morbidity/mortality any given year can be unpredictable. The flu shot isn't 100% either, but if you look at the models of how disease spreads both within a community and amongst connected communities, even getting a flu shot on the 'bad years' (like last year) has a huge impact on the ability of the illness move around.

The sad thing is despite overwhelming evidence, there are those among us who will just don their tinfoil hats ...

[Filthy_Pagan]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spanish flu of 1918 ... End of discussion.

Even with our modern advances there were plenty of cases of perfectly healthy people in their 20s dying to H1N1 several years back. The reason people were so worried about The swine flu was that unlike more common strains of Influenza A (that typically hit the very old very young and very sick), that subtype had a nasty habit of also knocking off perfectly young and healthy people.

Influenza is not some pussy-cat of an illness. Best case scenario it just makes you feel like dog shit for 4-5 days. Worst case scenario, it'll put you 6 feet under.

Vaccinating the individual is a public service. The more people that get their shot, the exponentially fewer people get sick.

But the question remains: why worry about forcing others to get vaccinated if you're vaccinated?

And why are we constantly shitting on natural selection? Maybe the reason we have libtards is because the weak and retarded didn't die within the first year of life?

[Evia]

Originally Posted by Filthy_Pagan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But the question remains: why worry about forcing others to get vaccinated if you're vaccinated?

QFT

[Patriam1066]

Vaccines aren't 100% effective. For that reason, herd immunity requires us all to be vaccinated.

This is very basic science. If only 70% of people are vaccinated, that's basically the same as 0% of people being vaccinated.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you mean your great great great grandchildrens tax money... if the human race lasts that long anyways.
I've never taken a flu shot, never will. Been over 20yrs since I last had the flu, an never had it really bad. Like that article I link said, it just makes it worse. Just eat right and get enough sleep, more than a flu shot could ever do for you, even a real one.

Ever heard of pneumonia? The enterovirus? Catch this beast in your childhood and you can have non-specific symptoms for the rest of your life. Chronic Fatigue Syndrome really compliments a capitalist.


I am not saying go full Howie Mandel, but I'm saying go Howie Mandel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) Never touch your head or face while out for the day. Wear a reminder string around your finger if you have to. This will become second nature.

2) Don't let anyone cough in your vicinity. If someone does this, get up and walk away. Make up an excuse. Helps if you pretend to be an ADHD spaceshot who abruptly ignores people and really has to use the bathroom a lot.

3) Don't let anyone sneeze in your vicinity. If you hear someone loading up a sneeze, run. Claim you left the stove on, or you forgot to lock your car. You should be moving so fast away from the violator that your excuse has to be shouted over your shoulder. You can hear a sneeze being chambered before it actually fires. Hone this talent.

4) Avoid using bathrooms that coughers and sneezers are using at work. This traps the virus due to humidity and lack of air flow. Piss in a bottle under your cubicle if you have to. Better yet, hit the alley dumpster during a fake coffee run for your coworkers.

5) Hone talent for detection. If you are serious about avoiding the flu, listening is the most important skill. The enemy will go to great lengths to avoid discovery, they will be talking less, engaging less, and muffling their sniffle. A trained ear can detect a stealth sickie even if the sickie is sticking to one and two-word answers. Any sign of congestion, you know what to do.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vaccines aren't 100% effective. For that reason, herd immunity requires us all to be vaccinated.

This is very basic science. If only 70% of people are vaccinated, that's basically the same as 0% of people being vaccinated.

Herd immunity looks like bullshit even if you believe in the junk science, since you can't vaccinate 100% of people, there will always be potential for mutation.

Its just a theory. Its unproven and hasn't been demonstrated, as are many vaccines. Theories don't make laws.

They say muh herd immunity, I say muh science. Herd immunity is speculative garbo. Many of the vaccines you want to use to get this "herd immunity" aren't even proven to work towards this goal in the first place.

It makes a convenient excuse for Big Pharma as to why the vaccine is so ineffective or failed to do what it was advertised to do-- protect people from getting the virus. "MUH HERD IMMUNITY" they decry! every time there is an outbreak or someone gets sick despite doing exactly what Uncle G said and getting all the Big Pharma $ recommended neurotoxic vaccines. All to protect their interests $$$. The vaccine is garbo in the first place, herd immunity has nothing to do with it.

And you parrot what a corporation tells you. /slow clap

[Mead]

A bunch of overweight drug addicts worrying about getting a flu and pneumonia vaccine. This thread is lulz beyond lulz. I doubt anyone has to worry about the lot of you leaving your basement to infect anyone anyways.