Addiction is not a disease

[Filthy_Pagan]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

like opium latex?? is that considered an ancien chinese sekret too?

Making poppy tea is a FAR cry from boiling opium latex down and adding a bunch of bullshit to it to make any of the various prescription opiates. It's the difference between peruvian farmers chewing on coca leaves for a boost similar to a weak cup of coffee and some producer boiling down the juice of 100 lbs of those leaves, adding other chemicals to it, and producing like an ounce of cocaine.

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you considered DMT and confronting this god face-to-face?

It sounds like its time for a lil chat with the serpent.

I have spoken with lord oroborus. He told me the only way not to be eaten is to be the eater. This was his entrance theme. I have trained and studied diligently the way of strategy since that day and embedded myself in the industry that will come to dominate mankind in the coming century. I believe I can fulfill the prophecy.

Not being able to wack it to loli anymore is a real issue though as far as my sanity is concerned man.

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by Filthy_Pagan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Making poppy tea is a FAR cry from boiling opium latex down and adding a bunch of bullshit to it to make any of the various prescription opiates. It's the difference between peruvian farmers chewing on coca leaves for a boost similar to a weak cup of coffee and some producer boiling down the juice of 100 lbs of those leaves, adding other chemicals to it, and producing like an ounce of cocaine.

Actually, poppy tea even from unwashed seeds is one hell of a lot stronger than you would think. 1lb of seeds washed thoroughly was enough to knock me on my ass and paralyze my ability to urinate like the first few times I did pharm oxycodone. By the time I got through 10lbs in 2 weeks I had a nasty withdrawal syndrome already.

I wish I had known about it when I was actually hooked on opiates and needed something to tide me over between scrips, because it's one hell of a lot cheaper than pharms and highly effective, but I shared your opinion and a disbelief that it would do that much until I actually tried it. I mean, it literally is a cocktail dose of some of the most common prescription opiates, they don't "add anything" to poppies when they are isolating morphine from them -- they remove morphine.

I've never made it from pods but I've heard that is even stronger.

[Filthy_Pagan]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, poppy tea even from unwashed seeds is one hell of a lot stronger than you would think. 1lb of seeds washed thoroughly was enough to knock me on my ass and paralyze my ability to urinate like the first few times I did pharm oxycodone. By the time I got through 10lbs in 2 weeks I had a nasty withdrawal syndrome already.

I wish I had known about it when I was actually hooked on opiates and needed something to tide me over between scrips, because it's one hell of a lot cheaper than pharms and highly effective, but I shared your opinion and a disbelief that it would do that much until I actually tried it. I mean, it literally is a cocktail dose of some of the most common prescription opiates, they don't "add anything" to poppies when they are isolating morphine from them -- they remove morphine.

I've never made it from pods but I've heard that is even stronger.

Back during my experimental phase I made tea from a pod, which was basically like a decent body high, I tried opium, which was like a strong body high, and I took a few percs, which lead to me moving at zombie speed through a video store for about 4 hours checking every movie in the place and not actually renting anything.

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by Filthy_Pagan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Back during my experimental phase I made tea from a pod, which was basically like a decent body high, I tried opium, which was like a strong body high, and I took a few percs, which lead to me moving at zombie speed through a video store for about 4 hours checking every movie in the place and not actually renting anything.

Pods and seeds are notorious for not being of consistent quality. I'm just telling you that at the higher end of quality, 1lb of unwashed seeds purchased on Amazon contained enough morphine to knock my on my ass harder than I'd ever been knocked down by pharm morphine pills.

You can believe me, or hang on to the idiotic argument that it's impossible to get a large dose of morphine by consuming a large quantity of a substance that contains morphine because muh natural.

Also, oxycodone zombifies you? I'm more like a speed talking meth junkie than someone on downers with that particular drug

Never tried real opium, always wanted to. jelly

[Filthy_Pagan]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pods and seeds are notorious for not being of consistent quality. I'm just telling you that at the higher end of quality, 1lb of unwashed seeds purchased on Amazon contained enough morphine to knock my on my ass harder than I'd ever been knocked down by pharm morphine pills.

You can believe me, or hang on to the idiotic argument that it's impossible to get a large dose of morphine by consuming a large quantity of a substance that contains morphine.

Never tried real opium, always wanted to. jelly

I'm not arguing the consistency of potency, just stating my experience.

Real opium was interesting. Sort of smelled/ tasted like incense. I split a gram of it with a friend back when oblivion came out and we ended up switching bac and forth on the same character for the entire day. I felt like it would be a good drug to do while wearing a monocle and sitting on a bean bag.


Let's get back to the spirit of the thing though. Addiction is the fault of the user and isn't a disease. Whether it's knowingly taking an addictive substance, or failing to research what a doctor (legal drug dealer) is giving you.

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by Filthy_Pagan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's get back to the spirit of the thing though. Addiction is the fault of the user and isn't a disease. Whether it's knowingly taking an addictive substance, or failing to research what a doctor (legal drug dealer) is giving you.

I agree well enough with this. But I don't think having a doc unexpectedly offer you thousands of dollars of street worth of drugs for $15 and not having the self-control to resist is the same as lying, cheating, and stealing your way into a street opiate addiction to the tune of thousands of dollars. I am not the type of person who does things like that for a high, or spends much money on drugs at all for that matter, so this crooked fuck financed by my insurance was literally the only way I was going to get hooked.

I wouldn't have been able to turn the scrip down for the sole purpose that it was worth over $1000 a month on SR at the time and I am an enterprising young gentleman. Unfortunately trying the one dose of methadone, and enjoying the 24 hours of very easy life and stress-free yet efficient work that ensued, were enough that I cleaned my plate rather than going through with the enterprising.

What I'm trying to say is that we should eat the rich who perpetrate these injustices upon us.

[Filthy_Pagan]

He didn't force the pills down your throat

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Filthy_Pagan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Real opium was interesting. Sort of smelled/ tasted like incense. I split a gram of it with a friend back when oblivion came out and we ended up switching bac and forth on the same character for the entire day. I felt like it would be a good drug to do while wearing a monocle and sitting on a bean bag.

Not going to get too deep into it. But there is no way you got real opium unless you grew your own.

I've never tried to procure or have any interest in it, but its my duty as an economist to point out to you that opium is worth more money when processed.

There is no market for opium. I find this very hard to believe.

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not going to get too deep into it. But there is no way you got real opium unless you grew your own.

I've never tried to procure or have any interest in it, but its my duty as an economist to point out to you that opium is worth more money when processed.

There is no market for opium. I find this very hard to believe.

I see your point, but it's far from the first time I've heard of an American doing opium.

There are indeed people who are more like hobbyists that grow poppies domestically, harvest latex, and don't bother with processing it. I'm skeptical that such persons commonly sell that latex, but I'm not going to call it totally implausible. There's always some market for novelty.