Ninja looting

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by hammbone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Totally get where you're coming from, you're making great points, but you're asking a GM to spend time researching server logs for you? Thought for training you had to provide proof, e.g. FRAPS.

Also, I'd like to think at least one member of Empire, given its notable white knights, would have said something.

as far as i'm aware, it doesn't take very long to retrieve encounter logs

i remember multiple instances of asking for encounter logs and eunomia providing them within a couple of minutes back in kunark

it's also possible for a single melee to get exp on a raid mob depending on how other groups are formed, which melees die during the fight, etc.

it was mostly a precaution, but ultimately the rulings regarding ninja looting tend to support the idea that they don't give a shit unless the person who ninja loots is out of pvp level range

[MasterCaster]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

as far as i'm aware, it doesn't take very long to retrieve encounter logs

i remember multiple instances of asking for encounter logs and eunomia providing them within a couple of minutes back in kunark

it's also possible for a single melee to get exp on a raid mob depending on how other groups are formed, which melees die during the fight, etc.

it was mostly a precaution, but ultimately the rulings regarding ninja looting tend to support the idea that they don't give a shit unless the person who ninja loots is out of pvp level range

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[MasterCaster]

So ninja looting rules are discretional is what I am gathering from all this.

[miraclegrow2]

it isn't the gms job to monitor your raid loot, asking that is hilarious.

Ninja looting is very illegal if you do it expect to have the items taken and your account getting a timeout.

Regardless of what trolls type here

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by miraclegrow2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it isn't the gms job to monitor your raid loot, asking that is hilarious.

Ninja looting is very illegal if you do it expect to have the items taken and your account getting a timeout.

Regardless of what trolls type here

so ninja looting is bad but perfectly acceptable in a raid scenario, and asking a GM to look into it isn't their job?

[Brojob]

I won the Tstaff on my bard that was ninja'd this morning. Had it returned to me a couple hours ago.

Thanks P99 staff for helping to get this resolved quickly. Glad no one had to get banned over this and I got the item that RNGesus rightfully bestowed upon me.

-Cyran <TMO>

[Trelk]

There is no justice unless there is blood

[Trelk]

Originally Posted by Llandris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That, my elf pal, is ninja looting.

Scenario time. PUG in KC. T-staff drops, everyone rolls. Someone without the winning roll loots and /q's. Ninja looting. Logs are your friend

What if they ninja the item as the mob dies and bolts? I'm glad you mentioned a tstaff

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i asked for encounter logs to see if anyone had looted one without saying anything or didn't give it to the person who was awarded it

Won't drop any names. But this wouldn't be a new thing.

On one occasion, a high ranking member cleared a corpse and didn't attempt to distribute the item to the person Gongshow awarded it to until directly questioned about it. Sure its possible he forgot, but hes a serious beard.

Thought it was pretty unprofessional.

Originally Posted by hammbone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, I'd like to think at least one member of Empire, given its notable white knights, would have said something.

Sheer amount of raid hours and raid targets, people get fatigued or apathetic and "accidentally" stuff can disappear every so often.

White knights can't catch it because the person may be authorized to "clear the corpse", or simply clears it on his own accord passively without any groupmates and conveniently won't pay attention to the award called out.

There's definitely some grabby hands too that may be scheming on mini-bosses and not surprised about the RoL who knows how much these grabbers get away with now that I think about it. Probably a few more than just the two examples here, but without Sirken's cooperation it is what it is.

[Kergan]

In Nihilum I'd loot shit I'd forget about all the time. One time Azrael rushed us during a CT attempt and I had like a bag, puppet strings and a slime blood that sat in my bags for like 2 months. I still think I have like an 8 charge puppet strings.