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Old 09-09-2015, 05:53 PM
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Your opinion on how Net Neutrality will play out in the future differs from mine. We keep running to government to fix problems and we end up getting more problems. If u don't like a product don't buy it. I hate Comcast btw would never buy there junk service.
And therein lies the problem:

The vast majority of people using Comcast services have no choice in the matter. You either have Comcast internet, or you use dial-up.

And that, my good man, is exactly why we need regulation in this industry: It is at best duopolistic leaving little to no choice to the consumer.

If these monopolies didn't exist, "Net Neutrality" wouldn't be a thing. Nobody would be able to beat you over the head with their shitty business practices if you had choice in the matter.
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Old 09-09-2015, 06:24 PM
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And therein lies the problem:

The vast majority of people using Comcast services have no choice in the matter. You either have Comcast internet, or you use dial-up.

And that, my good man, is exactly why we need regulation in this industry: It is at best duopolistic leaving little to no choice to the consumer.

If these monopolies didn't exist, "Net Neutrality" wouldn't be a thing. Nobody would be able to beat you over the head with their shitty business practices if you had choice in the matter.
So Internet access that fits your needs is now an inalienable Right? Sorry I don't see that in the Constitution.

So because Internet Service provider offers high speed service to an area that didn't have
It before gives u the right to dictate,how when and what shall be provided?
I think I'll try that today at Walmart the only department store in my town, wonder how that goes over. The Entitlement generation makes me sick
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Old 09-09-2015, 06:29 PM
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So Internet access that fits your needs is now an inalienable Right? Sorry I don't see that in the Constitution.

So because Internet Service provider offers high speed service to an area that didn't have
It before gives u the right to dictate,how when and what shall be provided?
I think I'll try that today at Walmart the only department store in my town, wonder how that goes over. The Entitlement generation makes me sick
If the company takes tax payer money in exchange for a promise to build out and provide services, then yes citizens should have a say in how it is provided.
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Old 09-09-2015, 06:36 PM
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So Internet access that fits your needs is now an inalienable Right? Sorry I don't see that in the Constitution.

So because Internet Service provider offers high speed service to an area that didn't have
It before gives u the right to dictate,how when and what shall be provided?
I think I'll try that today at Walmart the only department store in my town, wonder how that goes over. The Entitlement generation makes me sick
Your attempt to compare a retail store to a utility really highlights your lack of knowledge on this subject.

You should educate yourself a little further on this topic! It would be a good chance for some personal growth and new knowledge acquisition, and something tells me that when you know why the comparison isn't a good one, you'll change your tune about the entire subject matter.
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Old 09-09-2015, 06:37 PM
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If the company takes tax payer money in exchange for a promise to build out and provide services, then yes citizens should have a say in how it is provided.
How bout we don't give the tax payer money in the FIRST PLACE
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Old 09-09-2015, 06:46 PM
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How bout we don't give the tax payer money in the FIRST PLACE
It is too late for that. Again, nice theorycraft, but we have to work with reality.
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Old 09-09-2015, 06:48 PM
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How bout we don't give the tax payer money in the FIRST PLACE
you should probably take a basic economics course, and a civics course too

for-profit entities like Comcast would have basically no reason to invest in bleeding-edge technology or network expansion without some sort of incentive to do so; the risk is just too great. they're generally happy plodding along, as long as they can turn a profit and meet quarterly projections. they'll only make changes to their business model when the potential for profit outweighs the risk. that's why they get taxpayer money in some cases; because it offsets risk.

government is different; legislative bodies create legislation which mandates what they must do, and they do it, regardless of the risk or lack of profit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profit_motive

lack of profit motive is why it's better for the government to provide services which are considered essential to daily life. government entities (should) have no profit motive, and therefore will provide a service as they are mandated without altering or degrading that service in the name of making additional money.
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Old 09-09-2015, 08:01 PM
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I used to work for a large ISP who was kinda like Comcast. There are literally entire towns where they don't go out to fix speed or disconnect issues because the lines are so old there's nothing they can do. But they never upgrade them because they are the only service in the area and they don't have to.
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Old 09-10-2015, 06:57 AM
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They started this data cap in my area a few months ago. I have two children who LOVE watching youtube on separate xbox consoles. They also game for at least 2-3hours a day. At night they fall asleep with youtube on autoplay going from video to video. Top that with me playing video games, my wife and I streaming videos on netflix, and downloading music / video games. I hit 550gb my first month and 750gb the second month. Needless to say I switched to AT&T and have been a very happy customer ever since. Fuck comcast.
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Old 09-10-2015, 09:24 AM
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They started this data cap in my area a few months ago. I have two children who LOVE watching youtube on separate xbox consoles. They also game for at least 2-3hours a day. At night they fall asleep with youtube on autoplay going from video to video. Top that with me playing video games, my wife and I streaming videos on netflix, and downloading music / video games. I hit 550gb my first month and 750gb the second month. Needless to say I switched to AT&T and have been a very happy customer ever since. Fuck comcast.
You shouldn't let them fall asleep watching YouTube. Dat blue light is bad for sleep. Make 'em read a book for half an hour before bed.
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