8th Ring / Gloridain / Ragetrade

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"I have no use for this item. You can have it back"

Easy solution.

This was discussed a long time ago. And it was decided that it is not classic. Classically the only reimbursement for handing wrong items in, was only to be supported for epic quests. This was going to require minimal CSR support.

It was my recommendation to hand back items anyways if they weren't needed by npc. Even if it wasnt classic. The decision was not mine to make.

This is not easy-mode EQ. Sorry.

H

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are participating in a click fest, just to burden CSR staff with dealing with petitions of items that are likely to be lost, you are being a jerk. Intentionally causing more work for the staff, with the assumption that you will be reimbursed, at no risk to you = being an asshat.

Thanks for your long post justifying that the staffs time is less valuable than yours. You just proved which side you belong on.

Thank you. Have a nice day.

H

+1

"Selflessness" is illusory. All Rational behavior is selfish by definition. Unless you live in a padded room, you are inherently selfish. It is a matter of with whom your interests align. As H points out, clicking air is inconsiderate to staff as well as others doing the same thing. On the other hand, organizing a rotation is inconsiderate of those who'd prefer to click air.

[Scryll]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am pretty sure they plan dirk replacements.

You rageclick ur turn in and get wrong version of NPC? Typical CSR response on this would result in no reimbursement. Its the risk you take.

Totally getting wrong NPC, sometimes they reimburse. Not always.

H

Im in europe and have between 150-200ms most of the time. I turned inn my Marching Orders almost 2 weeks ago and lost it to another person (probably because he had better ping), but on my screen I was the first to turn inn. I understand this can't be fixed, so for now I just hope my reimburstment petition goes through and I will wait for that one day when the server repops or something and I am there alone. Having to go through another 150-200 hours of farm to get to #7 Coldain ring again would be a real unfair punishment =/

[paulgiamatti]

Again, players are participating in a click-fest because they want to compete, not because they want to screw people over. They're trying to get their Velium Coldain Insignia Ring, not a bloated petition queue for the server GMs. This is an easy concept.

If it's creating more CSR work for the staff, then there's a problem that extends beyond "we're being asshats."

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Scryll [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im in europe and have between 150-200ms most of the time. I turned inn my Marching Orders almost 2 weeks ago and lost it to another person (probably because he had better ping), but on my screen I was the first to turn inn. I understand this can't be fixed, so for now I just hope my reimburstment petition goes through and I will wait for that one day when the server repops or something and I am there alone. Having to go through another 150-200 hours of farm to get to #7 Coldain ring again would be a real unfair punishment =/

Who is punishing you?

Also, Velious has only been released for, we'll round up, 23 days. 23 * 24 = 552 total hours. You really spent 150-200 hours on the quest?

[Scryll]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who is punishing you?

Also, Velious has only been released for, we'll round up, 23 days. 23 * 24 = 552 total hours. You really spent 150-200 hours on the quest?

Around that yes, I had to do the #1 Coldain ring combine 2 times because of Trivial failure on the combine. This made me end up around 30 hours of farming for those pelts. I spent around 24 hours getting Boridain, failing multiple times because of people training into him / grief / 8th ring war killing him... and much more. Basicly I spent a shit ton of time on everything except #6 with Icefang. That one I only spent like 30min or so doing. Ive been affected by Murphy's Law when it comes to me doing Dain ring in general.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Learning to get along, take turns, and play nice with others also works. There is no reason to change it to cater to the asshats.

H

I mean all it takes is one rogue player to ruin that - there is no incentive.

All this solution does is make it easier for your CSR staff by preventing untold numbers of petitions. Velious is littered with quest issues like this one.

[wormed]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This was discussed a long time ago. And it was decided that it is not classic.

Why'd you force Velious textures? At what line do you draw what is deemed classic and what is deemed not classic?

If you are participating in a click fest, just to burden CSR staff with dealing with petitions of items that are likely to be lost, you are being a jerk. Intentionally causing more work for the staff, with the assumption that you will be reimbursed, at no risk to you = being an asshat.

Thanks for your long post justifying that the staffs time is less valuable than yours. You just proved which side you belong on.

Thank you. Have a nice day.

Wut? You're joining the click fest to obtain an item in the game, not to burden the CSR staff. To make that correlation takes some serious mind wrapping. Can it be a CSR issue? I guess so but to call people asshats for participating in one retarded element on P99 (and classic EQ) that is a huge bottleneck due to the timeline of P99 in the first place is a bit silly.

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, players are participating in a click-fest because they want to compete, not because they want to screw people over. They're trying to get their Velium Coldain Insignia Ring, not a bloated petition queue for the server GMs. This is an easy concept.

If it's creating more CSR work for the staff, then there's a problem that extends beyond "we're being asshats."

Didn't see Paul say this. I have the same sentiment.

[kaev]

Think I'll wait until PoP comes out to do this quest. Hopefully the queue will be down by then.

[Droog007]

It looks like the best answer here is to attempt to get all known guilds to ratify an agreement that there will be a /random contest held on-site at Gloridain minus 5 minutes. Then all we can do is name and shame the rogues.

If you win the /random and fail, Orc Chief rights fall to the next high roll until Garadain has died/despawned...