8th Ring / Gloridain / Ragetrade

[Fanguru]

The problem with taking turns on a 24h repop is that the line gets longer and longer until it becomes ridiculous.
Almost everyone want that ring. Server population is often 1000+. Let's say only half of those 1k want the ring and are level-ready, and let's pretend they only have one toon.
You are looking at a 500 days list already. That is close to a year and a half.

Previous steps have a maximum of 3 hours repop and are very easy. You get a constant stream of new players ready for 8th ring war.

Scout Charisa is a 10 hours timer, this is much less than Gloradin's 24.

This is about giving people a fair chance, the issue is not getting along.

[Daldaen]

You've illuminated the issue and it's pretty clear the line and competition for this mob will never be alleviated.

So either people can try nightly, spam click for 2-3 min and try again the next night. Or they can resolve to not get the ring because they don't want to deal with it.

[Daldaen]

Also spawning him outside the hut after a successful turnin so that you can't misclick onto him, another easy solution.

But it sounds like they aren't inclined to do either. That may just result in a few extra petitions a week about eaten marching orders. If that's fine with the powers that be, so be it.

[Haynar]

I am pretty sure they plan dirk replacements.

You rageclick ur turn in and get wrong version of NPC? Typical CSR response on this would result in no reimbursement. Its the risk you take.

Totally getting wrong NPC, sometimes they reimburse. Not always.

H

[Scryll]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am pretty sure they plan dirk replacements.

You rageclick ur turn in and get wrong version of NPC? Typical CSR response on this would result in no reimbursement. Its the risk you take.

Totally getting wrong NPC, sometimes they reimburse. Not always.

H

Im in europe and have between 150-200ms most of the time. I turned inn my Marching Orders almost 2 weeks ago and lost it to another person (probably because he had better ping), but on my screen I was the first to turn inn. I understand this can't be fixed, so for now I just hope my reimburstment petition goes through and I will wait for that one day when the server repops or something and I am there alone. Having to go through another 150-200 hours of farm to get to #7 Coldain ring again would be a real unfair punishment =/

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Scryll [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im in europe and have between 150-200ms most of the time. I turned inn my Marching Orders almost 2 weeks ago and lost it to another person (probably because he had better ping), but on my screen I was the first to turn inn. I understand this can't be fixed, so for now I just hope my reimburstment petition goes through and I will wait for that one day when the server repops or something and I am there alone. Having to go through another 150-200 hours of farm to get to #7 Coldain ring again would be a real unfair punishment =/

Who is punishing you?

Also, Velious has only been released for, we'll round up, 23 days. 23 * 24 = 552 total hours. You really spent 150-200 hours on the quest?

[Scryll]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who is punishing you?

Also, Velious has only been released for, we'll round up, 23 days. 23 * 24 = 552 total hours. You really spent 150-200 hours on the quest?

Around that yes, I had to do the #1 Coldain ring combine 2 times because of Trivial failure on the combine. This made me end up around 30 hours of farming for those pelts. I spent around 24 hours getting Boridain, failing multiple times because of people training into him / grief / 8th ring war killing him... and much more. Basicly I spent a shit ton of time on everything except #6 with Icefang. That one I only spent like 30min or so doing. Ive been affected by Murphy's Law when it comes to me doing Dain ring in general.

[Haynar]

If you are participating in a click fest, just to burden CSR staff with dealing with petitions of items that are likely to be lost, you are being a jerk. Intentionally causing more work for the staff, with the assumption that you will be reimbursed, at no risk to you = being an asshat.

Thanks for your long post justifying that the staffs time is less valuable than yours. You just proved which side you belong on.

Thank you. Have a nice day.

H

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are participating in a click fest, just to burden CSR staff with dealing with petitions of items that are likely to be lost, you are being a jerk. Intentionally causing more work for the staff, with the assumption that you will be reimbursed, at no risk to you = being an asshat.

Thanks for your long post justifying that the staffs time is less valuable than yours. You just proved which side you belong on.

Thank you. Have a nice day.

H

+1

"Selflessness" is illusory. All Rational behavior is selfish by definition. Unless you live in a padded room, you are inherently selfish. It is a matter of with whom your interests align. As H points out, clicking air is inconsiderate to staff as well as others doing the same thing. On the other hand, organizing a rotation is inconsiderate of those who'd prefer to click air.

[nyclin]

haynar and rogean must be going through some rough times or something, they've been super salty lately

makes no sense to leave this 100% classic when scout charisa and ziglark whisperwing have already been modified "for CSR reasons"

people are going to be assholes no matter what, may as well make it so that people who are assholes aren't impacting others' hard work and aren't creating unneeded work for the CSR staff