Spells: Dragon Roar

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One thing I saw, was the duration was rounding up. So for example, my test had 20% to land for full. 20% chance to resist completely. For a 3 tick spell, a rand over remaining, less than 1/3 should drop right away. 1/3 should last 1 tick. And 1/3 for 2. But it rounded up. So all partials got an extra tick. So effectively 40% lasted for full. And all partials had an extra tick.

I will try to iron out rest later. But thats a start.

H

So a full fear is supposed to be 3 ticks - was the last 20% doing something odd?

Didn't we have some logs here somewhere of people taking 20,21,22 second fears?

With the changes is this how it will be:

20% full resist
20% drop immediately
20% 1 tick
20% 2 tick
20% 3 tick

At level 60 with 255mr?

If all partials were 1 tick more, then no one would drop fear immediately, ya? I'd have to look at logs when home but I'm pretty sure I've had instant drop fears.

[Freakish]

Think about it this way. You get feared, 2 seconds later the server does its "tick" check. You are "instantly" unfeared.

If you've ever played a dot class and seen your dot tick as soon as it lands you'll understand.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Freakish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think about it this way. You get feared, 2 seconds later the server does its "tick" check. You are "instantly" unfeared.

If you've ever played a dot class and seen your dot tick as soon as it lands you'll understand.

It's early. Makes sense. Thanks.

Still not sure about the 20/20/20/20/20 thing - still seems a tad high.

[Daldaen]

I agree the 20/20/20/20/20 spread doesn't seem right exactly.

Based on the videos, let's just assume everyone is 60 and 255 MR (this is likely not the case for classic).

You are seeing probably 50-60% of the raid completely resist the fears based on who runs around afterwards.

A solid 25% are unfeared after about 0-6 seconds.

Another 10% are unfeared after about 7-12 seconds.

Maybe 5% are unfeared after 13-18 seconds.

The top end of the fearing duration should be very small and likely is only affecting low levels and non-MR capped people in those videos.

[Haynar]

The 20 spread was an example and not real numbers. Its not what i see for dragon roar. Still working on that. It was just to illustrate one of the problems.

H

[Daldaen]

Ah I understand! Thanks for clarifying!

[Colgate]

god bless u haynar

[Daldaen]

Also something worth looking into. There are 2 different dragon roar spells:

ID - 981 - http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...81&source=Live
ID - 789 - http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...89&source=Live

981 has no resist check. 789 has a -150 MR check on it. (Yes I know 789 is called Dragon Fear, but it was renamed from Dragon Roar in 2007)

Kunark dragons should have the Dragon Fear with the -150 MR check (ID 789). Naggy/Vox/Velious dragons should have the Dragon Roar with no resist check (ID 981). This can be confirmed on Live by fighting each mob and seeing whether you resist Dragon Fear (ID 789) or Dragon Roar (ID 981). Torven posted some logs on TAKProject confirming this:

[Tue Sep 23 18:11:57 2014] Zlandicar begins to cast a spell. <Dragon Roar>
[Sat Sep 20 08:01:00 2014] Klandicar begins to cast a spell. <Dragon Roar>
[Tue Sep 16 03:36:55 2014] Sontalak begins to cast a spell. <Dragon Roar>

[Sun Jul 19 22:11:05 2015] Gorenaire begins to cast a spell. <Dragon Fear>
[Mon Mar 23 02:26:19 2015] Talendor begins to cast a spell. <Dragon Fear>
[Wed Mar 25 02:42:33 2015] Severilous begins to cast a spell. <Dragon Fear>

I strongly suspect the Velious mobs are incorrectly using 789 when they should be using 981.

2001 SPdat info:
ID - 789:

Dragon Roar
Dragon Resistance - (This is -150 MR check in old spell data)
Fear


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Classes: None

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Area Effect Range: 300 feet

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Skill: Instantaneous
Allowable Targets: Point Blank AoE

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Resistance Check: Magic

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Spell Duration: 3 ticks (18 seconds)
Duration Formula: 7
Recast Delay: 36.0 seconds

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When someone casts: Soandso lets loose a mighty roar.
Spell cast on you: You flee in terror.
Spell fades: You are no longer afraid.

ID - 981:

Dragon Roar
Fear between 1 and 400 levels


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Classes: None

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Area Effect Range: 300 feet

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Skill: Instantaneous
Allowable Targets: Point Blank AoE

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Resistance Check: Magic

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Spell Duration: 3 ticks (18 seconds)
Duration Formula: 7
Recast Delay: 36.0 seconds

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When someone casts: Soandso lets loose a mighty roar.
Spell cast on you: You flee in terror.
Spell fades: You are no longer afraid.

In summary:

Can a dev confirm that Sontalak, Zlandicar, and Klandicar are using Dragon Roar ID 981 and NOT 789?

[Colgate]

dayum

goog find

[Daldaen]

Bump, I think I'm onto something.