Sport Hunting

[dafier]

What really happened:

1. Dude goes to Africa to hunt.

2. Pays for it.

3. Looking for hit lion kill.

OMG! IT'S COMIN RIGHT AT US!

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5. PITA sees this

6. People cry.

[TarukShmaruk]

Real men hunt animals using superior technology and ranged weaponry that minimizes any and all risk to themselves while simultaneously having no actual need for anything the animal provides

[Ryba]

People are advocating his family being tortured over this.

Your hillbilly outrage only works if you fixate on the fringe arguments.

The whole Cecil situation distills to: Guy kills animal that is illegal to kill, guy must face the law. The fact that he is being publicly shamed for his pathetic hobby is just a bonus for us to enjoy.

If the climax of your relationship with nature is sitting still in the woods with a high-powered rifle until another animal comes close enough to kill it, you are as shallow as a puddle. It's not that you're wrong, it's just sad that you're alive.

[Deliverator]

Originally Posted by Destron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would America be offended if someone from Zimbabwe came to America, went to Wyoming, and killed an Elk for sport? I contest that it is only an issue because in America we deem these "exotic" animals "exotic" because we see them in the circus. In Africa they are the norm, but we put them on a pedestal because we think they are special because we don't have them in America.

Hunting for sport and hunting for meat, both end the same. Dead animal, meat is consumed by the hunter, scavengers or back into the earth to provide life in another form.

This outrage is a sham.

The reason America has a problem with people going to Africa to kill animals is that those animals in Africa have been hunting to near extinction. They aren't going over there for the gazelle they are going for the Black Rhinos and the Lions that have been hunted for nearly a century.

[Destron]

I hunt, I fish, I work in IT, I play p99, I have kids, I have a wife, I live north of the mason dixon line, I voted for Obama, I voted for Bush. But paint me in your little box that makes your small world view play out well in your pea brain.

The original argument I had more to do with Sport Hunting than this dentist from MN. The outrage is disingenuous.

Financially, the best use of most of the land in Africa is to host and house these paid/auction style hunts. It supports communities, promotes conservation. Most of the time the hunters are required to kill X amount of animals to provide meat/sustenance for the local tribes. These aren't the boogey men, it's not as simple as douche bags with money raping and exploiting underdeveloped communities.

[dafier]

Originally Posted by Destron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hunt, I fish, I work in IT, I play p99, I have kids, I have a wife, I live in CONUS, and I voted for Bush.

^^^

And the rest of your points are dead on. Some people have horse blinders on and refuse to change their view because of multiple retarded and pigheadedness personal thoughts.

Don't let yourself be bothered with the non-thinkers of the world. They are but a waste of time.

[Ryba]

Originally Posted by dafier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't let yourself be bothered with the non-thinkers of the world. They are but a waste of time.

If you can only describe your world in terms of polar opposites, you probably aren't the thinker you imagine yourself to be. There's nuance to this argument. It is broader than your illusionary world of Real Men versus The Yuppy Sheeple.

I can virtually guarantee I've killed more animals for meat than you badasses. Hunting lions is indefensibly retarded--but it is legal. Killing a protected one is illegal and it will get you publicly laughed at for your retarded hobby. That's how the world works. Nobody will actually torture his family, but if they do, that person can go to prison.

Shooting a lion is pedestrian. Paying to do so for a trophy head is depressingly shallow, but we are still on the right side of the law. Getting caught bait-hunting a protected lion (accident or not) and destroying its tracking collar is ridiculous. Ridiculous things get ridiculed.

Worse than being disingenuously outraged is being a weathervane for disingenuous outrage: lots of hand waving, but in the end, predictably contrary. Don't be so confident of the inferiority of the person you're talking to and I guarantee you your world will open up.

[Villide]

Originally Posted by Ryba [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can only describe your world in terms of polar opposites, you probably aren't the thinker you imagine yourself to be. There's nuance to this argument. It is broader than your illusionary world of Real Men versus The Yuppy Sheeple.

I can virtually guarantee I've killed more animals for meat than you badasses. Hunting lions is indefensibly retarded--but it is legal. Killing a protected one is illegal and it will get you publicly laughed at for your retarded hobby. That's how the world works. Nobody will actually torture his family, but if they do, that person can go to prison.

Shooting a lion is pedestrian. Paying to do so for a trophy head is depressingly shallow, but we are still on the right side of the law. Getting caught bait-hunting a protected lion (accident or not) and destroying its tracking collar is ridiculous. Ridiculous things get ridiculed.

Worse than being disingenuously outraged is being a weathervane for disingenuous outrage: lots of hand waving, but in the end, predictably contrary. Don't be so confident of the inferiority of the person you're talking to and I guarantee you your world will open up.

You can safely close this shit down now.

[LulzSect]

Originally Posted by Ryba [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can only describe your world in terms of polar opposites, you probably aren't the thinker you imagine yourself to be. There's nuance to this argument. It is broader than your illusionary world of Real Men versus The Yuppy Sheeple.

I can virtually guarantee I've killed more animals for meat than you badasses. Hunting lions is indefensibly retarded--but it is legal. Killing a protected one is illegal and it will get you publicly laughed at for your retarded hobby. That's how the world works. Nobody will actually torture his family, but if they do, that person can go to prison.

Shooting a lion is pedestrian. Paying to do so for a trophy head is depressingly shallow, but we are still on the right side of the law. Getting caught bait-hunting a protected lion (accident or not) and destroying its tracking collar is ridiculous. Ridiculous things get ridiculed.

Worse than being disingenuously outraged is being a weathervane for disingenuous outrage: lots of hand waving, but in the end, predictably contrary. Don't be so confident of the inferiority of the person you're talking to and I guarantee you your world will open up.

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[Destron]

Originally Posted by Ryba [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can only describe your world in terms of polar opposites, you probably aren't the thinker you imagine yourself to be. There's nuance to this argument. It is broader than your illusionary world of Real Men versus The Yuppy Sheeple.

I can virtually guarantee I've killed more animals for meat than you badasses. Hunting lions is indefensibly retarded--but it is legal. Killing a protected one is illegal and it will get you publicly laughed at for your retarded hobby. That's how the world works. Nobody will actually torture his family, but if they do, that person can go to prison.

Shooting a lion is pedestrian. Paying to do so for a trophy head is depressingly shallow, but we are still on the right side of the law. Getting caught bait-hunting a protected lion (accident or not) and destroying its tracking collar is ridiculous. Ridiculous things get ridiculed.

Worse than being disingenuously outraged is being a weathervane for disingenuous outrage: lots of hand waving, but in the end, predictably contrary. Don't be so confident of the inferiority of the person you're talking to and I guarantee you your world will open up.

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