<Fresh> disbanded due to massive division in the guild caused by the alliance.

[Tradesonred]

Its sad that this server cant keep a guild like Red Dawn or Fresh up for a long time, because clearly thats a type of laid back environement people enjoy and the server loses some of those cool normal people when this kind of meltdown happens. Wish Red dawn would have really allied with Nihilum a year or 2 ago to completely annihilate Lite like i suggested, so something else could emerge out of the rubble.

[bloodletter]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what you need is someone who is willing to roll up their sleeves and take these people out of Crushbone and get them organized and caught up with planar clears, epics and resist gear.

That, I agree with....

[derpcake]

op mad at alliance, mad at empire

Mad mad max

Too bad Fresh gone tho.

[Knuckle]

Originally Posted by dontbanpls [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have disbanded the guild tonight. The new alliance has wormed their way into the minds of several of my officers and have eroded the foundation of the guild. They refused to respect the initial terms of the alliance which was that <Fresh> was to remain an independent guild. I can not work with a guild that has goals to dismantle my guild, and I can't move forward without the core of my guild.

I strongly urge anyone who enjoyed their time in <Fresh> to stay out of the Alliance as it is directly responsible and being lead by people who are only motivated by power, greed, and a desire to usurp my authority over <Fresh> and take it away from the server.


I founded <Fresh> to keep guilds like Azrael and Empire out of power. Joining these people is turning on everything that I had hoped <Fresh> could provide to the server. It was supposed to be a safe haven for people who wanted to play in a normal environment. The dream you are chasing now is not mine, but that of someone who hates me.


I hope that you will make the right decision and refuse the alliance guild in solidarity with me.

Yeah continue to get shit on because one dude is mad that he got taken off the shot-caller list, and clearly that was a good move by the alliance folk. However people like this will continue to destroy your chances to compete, I recommend griefing him off the server before he poisons your chance of uniting under one banner.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by bloodletter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That, I agree with....

And its not spin, its truth and very much my story returning

When Azrael was fucking my pals in fear, that's the first thing I said we had to do and something I went straight to work doing

I've rolled back my Crushbone/Unrest PLing initiatives and coaching in hopes someone else would and formed up a new underdog

If you looked at the way things were playing out, there is basically no way Holo should have been able to take its advisor robe and bronze pals to the top to even get 50% of the mobs

Granted we had out of the box amazing leadership that didn't have to learn too much about the game, but the #'s they were running and the gear disparity was very much there

I'd challenge the people forming the resistance to look at helping others up and gearing them as actually helping themselves. That is to say more like beefing up the units you command in an RTS rather than just demanding people do better or join you to help you get pixels without helping them get to that point first and continuing to help them after. Just know up front that it takes a ton of dedication and 45% of the people you help won't be able to keep up with the pace and quit, but the ones that stick around will be extremely loyal to you if you are to them... and its very worth it for all parties involved. I personally have little to show for my efforts plat-wise and alt-wise if you look in my characters banks considering the play time I've put in, but you will also find I am very rich in friends. The guy standing next to me decked out with an epic is much more valuable than that same gear on an alt and absolutely worth doing twice if one of them were to throw up their hands and quit. Remember that when the pixel greed gets to your brain, or end up like Lite with 10 alts to suck on but no one to drive them... unless you think you can get away with boxing contested raid mobs forever.

[Dacuk]

Originally Posted by dontbanpls [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I founded <Fresh> to keep guilds like Azrael and Empire out of power. Joining these people is turning on everything that I had hoped <Fresh> could provide to the server.

i think your guildmates agree with you and your mission, the problem was you weren't keeping anyone out of power. The alliance was a way for this to be possible, so that is why they are interested - it is aligned with you mission of keeping empire out of power, while also totally changing azrael for the better.

also if you don't think anyone should join either because it is turning on everything, why are you joining empire and advocating for it?

[Doctor Jeff]

you want your trak bp back?

[pingpong]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When Azrael was fucking my pals in fear, that's the first thing I said we had to do and something I went straight to work doing

lol you are such a spin doctor -you mean the time when aimchat refused to call lns from your fear loss as a political move so that the ensuing pvp over the CR can be spun exactly as you have been doing ever since.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Knuckle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah continue to get shit on because one dude is mad that he got taken off the shot-caller list, and clearly that was a good move by the alliance folk. However people like this will continue to destroy your chances to compete, I recommend griefing him off the server before he poisons your chance of uniting under one banner.

You can hate on Max all you want but the "alliance" thing has been done before. If Lite is involved in an Alliance then who do you think gets the loot? Azrael will determine this. Then why would people with high play time stay in guilds like Fresh? They leave to Azrael. Then Azrael gears the same 10 dudes with their 10 alts, RMT to people like Sektors, etc. until it all falls apart. It has happened several times already.

I get why Max is upset with the alliance but it looks like he lost his cool and lost support from the officers in Fresh. Probably no going back now for that guild.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can hate on Max all you want but the "alliance" thing has been done before. If Lite is involved in an Alliance then who do you think gets the loot? Azrael will determine this. Then why would people with high play time stay in guilds like Fresh? They leave to Azrael. Then Azrael gears the same 10 dudes with their 10 alts, RMT to people like Sektors, etc. until it all falls apart. It has happened several times already.

I get why Max is upset with the alliance but it looks like he lost his cool and lost support from the officers in Fresh. Probably no going back now for that guild.

The beauty of an alliance is that its not a merge, its working together for a temporary goal that might extend into permanence if things work out well in the long run. An alliance isnt a dictatorship run by El Presidente.

Its funny that Lite thinks alliance means him calling the shots, and that when red dawn agreed to a simple do not raid with Azrael agreement with Nihilum, so trash geared, cool normal people like Thresh could get their epics (A no-brainer everybody pretty much in the guild agreed with after Heartbrand submitted it for approval), Lite interpreted that as "An alliance to destroy Azrael".