What would it take for a new mmo to recapture the feeling of eq?

[Glenzig]

The biggest issue is this. There were no target demographics for EQ. They didnt make the game a certain way for certain types of gamers,they just made it the way they thought it should be.

Also cocaine.

[andrew23]

Community... here's why...

1) Grouping begins early, and levels are slow. So time playing/meeting/building relationships is longer and has a long lasting "real" effect. A few days missed in WoW will have characters at such a level difference they will no longer group.

2) Players know their character and the world, and are willing to interact with other characters in it. You will find more interaction in buying an EJAC than you will find in a week of WOW. Unless you consider "gogogogogogogogogogo" interaction.

3) Difficult and rewarding. The slow progress and challenging mechanics have you coming back for more when you actually get somewhere. Because it feels like you've attained something, and you want to continue your legacy.

4) You can begin meeting/playing/working with end game players as early as level 46, which only promotes the team work mentality. Unlike other MMOs where anything less than MAX level and some drops is UNACCEPTABLE!

As far as "time consuming and life draining" comments, lets not be naive. Nerds dump TONS more time into WOW than they should. TONS of time into LOL, TONS of time into COD. Everquest doesn't require more time than any other video game. What everquest does require is a team player attitude and a level of focus that sadly most people don't have. So they claim it takes forever, but really... it only takes forever if you suck ass at networking, have no social skills, and lack the focus required to earn your keep.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by andrew23 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Community... here's why...

1) Grouping begins early, and levels are slow. So time playing/meeting/building relationships is longer and has a long lasting "real" effect. A few days missed in WoW will have characters at such a level difference they will no longer group.

2) Players know their character and the world, and are willing to interact with other characters in it. You will find more interaction in buying an EJAC than you will find in a week of WOW. Unless you consider "gogogogogogogogogogo" interaction.

3) Difficult and rewarding. The slow progress and challenging mechanics have you coming back for more when you actually get somewhere. Because it feels like you've attained something, and you want to continue your legacy.

4) You can begin meeting/playing/working with end game players as early as level 46, which only promotes the team work mentality. Unlike other MMOs where anything less than MAX level and some drops is UNACCEPTABLE!

As far as "time consuming and life draining" comments, lets not be naive. Nerds dump TONS more time into WOW than they should. TONS of time into LOL, TONS of time into COD. Everquest doesn't require more time than any other video game. What everquest does require is a team player attitude and a level of focus that sadly most people don't have. So they claim it takes forever, but really... it only takes forever if you suck ass at networking, have no social skills, and lack the focus required to earn your keep.

This is a really good post man.

[Clark]

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[applesauce25r624]

I'd rather recapture UO

[Evia]

To me, everquest was magical because it successfully made me feel as if I was in a world within a world. All the modern mmos make me feel like I'm playing a game. EQ does something that makes all the time sinking acceptable because it falls in line with more of a fantasy world simulator then an actual video game. The community/people really drive most of what goes on and the world is huge, vast, and mysterious.

[Champion_Standing]

Plenty of good MMOs out there that have everything people are claiming here makes EQ the best. It's just nostalgia.

[Roth]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Plenty of good MMOs out there that have everything people are claiming here makes EQ the best. It's just nostalgia.

This is not true, other mmo's don't capture the right spirit. I think the truth is people don't really know what makes eq so great so they say a couple things and someone applies it elsewhere and says "well you should like this it must be nostalgia". That's such bs. I don't care about wow the same way I care about eq. It's not nostalgia, and when I bring new players to eq they can usually see what I see in it and they're amazed. If other mmo's were so great I'd go play those and be happy with them but it's not the same experience here.

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Roth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is not true, other mmo's don't capture the right spirit. I think the truth is people don't really know what makes eq so great so they say a couple things and someone applies it elsewhere and says "well you should like this it must be nostalgia". That's such bs. I don't care about wow the same way I care about eq. It's not nostalgia, and when I bring new players to eq they can usually see what I see in it and they're amazed. If other mmo's were so great I'd go play those and be happy with them but it's not the same experience here.

So it all comes down to some intangible feeling you get when playing....hmmmm


There are people who feel this way about WoW, UO, DAoC and about a lot of other games. Put EQ down on paper and its a pretty unremarkable time sink.

[Roth]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So it all comes down to some intangible feeling you get when playing....hmmmm


There are people who feel this way about WoW, UO, DAoC and about a lot of other games. Put EQ down on paper and its a pretty unremarkable time sink.

For me I think it's special because the world feels realistic and doesn't feel like a game. It's challenging and I feel like an explorer and there's a strong community. To this day I still tell non eq friends when I talk about the game the time I was in dalnir and some other group went to 3rd floor and lost their corpses and we tried to bail them out... long story but interesting. I think these types of things were just fun and a different experience that I haven't been able to find in other games. When I play eq it just hits the right spot.

edit: btw I forgot to add the dalnir experience happened here probably a year ago [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.], feels like a longer time than it was. That just proves my point though lol. I'm still making new memories on project 1999 and it's just an extension of my experience.