JBoot cost

[Halius]

I don't have jboots either. I can't tell you how many times strafe running saved my ass.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by wormed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's one of those items that is absolutely ruined by MQ, imo.

MQ is great, I agree, but in this case, this is one of those items that I'm having a tough time feeling great about, especially after what just happened. 100pp is a lot of skrilla if I need to consistently replenish it.

Aaaaaaanyway, I'm just bitching and moaning. But I do hope he feels bad about it!~!!

You seem to be stuck on "consistently" replenishing it.

How often do you play? Every night? A few hours?

How often are you in an indoor dungeon or grouped with a shaman, druid or ranger?

Answer those questions yourself. Then think each dose of a SoW potion lasts 36min. You won't need them indoors or when you're grouped with players who can cast it.

If you played exclusively outdoors and 3 hours a night every night (21 a week) and you always needed to be SoW'd and you only soloed, never grouping with someone who could SoW you. That would cost you 420pp a week to stay SoW'd.

The thing is, most players often travel to and exp in dungeons where you can't SoW or JBoot. Most players often don't need to be running fast when they are in a group at a static camp in an outdoor zone. Many players favor grouping over soloing and at your level 3/14 classes can cast SoW and 2 of those 3 are the most common on the server.

In actuality you probably won't even use more than 200pp a week even playing every day for 3 hours when all that is factored in.

[wormed]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem to be stuck on "consistently" replenishing it.

How often do you play? Every night? A few hours?

How often are you in an indoor dungeon or grouped with a shaman, druid or ranger?

Answer those questions yourself. Then think each dose of a SoW potion lasts 36min. You won't need them indoors or when you're grouped with players who can cast it.

If you played exclusively outdoors and 3 hours a night every night (21 a week) and you always needed to be SoW'd and you only soloed, never grouping with someone who could SoW you. That would cost you 420pp a week to stay SoW'd.

The thing is, most players often travel to and exp in dungeons where you can't SoW or JBoot. Most players often don't need to be running fast when they are in a group at a static camp in an outdoor zone. Many players favor grouping over soloing and at your level 3/14 classes can cast SoW and 2 of those 3 are the most common on the server.

In actuality you probably won't even use more than 200pp a week even playing every day for 3 hours when all that is factored in.

I play daily, ranges from a couple hours to many. I'm always outdoors as I'm generally leveling in Mistmoore as of late, and not many indoor dungeons are busy enough to find groups (SolA, Paw).

I usually solo, however. Mainly because I'm not a fan of staying LFG for long as if I have free time, I'd like to progress my levels and not waste time. I was in Rathe Mountains for a few levels, for example.

200pp a week is still a decent chunk of change. That's the point I'm trying to make. SoW potions are great but they wouldn't replace the functionality of JBoots. FS stuff weighs lots, so does small bronze. They only sell for 3-5p at vendor, and if I want to make any money off the bronze, I need to hit EC, which takes time. Money drops off mobs is inconsequential since it ranges from 5g to 1p. I might get lucky and score a Garg Eye or 2. But anyway, 200pp-400p per week just on SoW pots isn't feasible. Well, it COULD be, but then I'd be saving probably nothing to very little to further develop my character.

EDIT: Giant Skels in Rathe were decent as they dropped about 2p per skel, but never any weapons or anything. I'd sell the bone chips for 10p a stack. That's generally where I was able to save some coin since it was consistent. However, at 33, it's not as good of a level spot any longer. It's ok but fear kiting skels for 3 levels makes you very jaded about doing it more. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Daldaen]

So the purpose of SoW/JBoots is to just run to the vendors to sell FS and run back to MM? Sounds like some WR bags would be more helpful in this. Cheaper ones like light burlap sack, bag of sewn evil eye and box of nil space?

Cause I don't think you need it while EXPing in MM unless I'm wrong?

Can always just nab a SoW before you head to vendors from a random grouping druid or shaman as well.

[Zombiehasslehoff]

Were travelers boots added with velious or later on?

[wormed]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So the purpose of SoW/JBoots is to just run to the vendors to sell FS and run back to MM? Sounds like some WR bags would be more helpful in this. Cheaper ones like light burlap sack, bag of sewn evil eye and box of nil space?

Cause I don't think you need it while EXPing in MM unless I'm wrong?

Can always just nab a SoW before you head to vendors from a random grouping druid or shaman as well.

The purpose of SoW/JBoots is for travel, yes. As I said, I solo a lot too as grouping isn't always the most efficient, even as a Paladin. I've thought of buying some WR bags but then I generally think I should save for JBoots. Then I had this bright idea of camping them for myself... but here we are.

I understand that I don't *need* Jboots, just like I don't *need* many things in this game. However, I was just pointing out that it is literally impossible, barring any sort of spawn miracle, for first time characters to be able to receive an item that should be obtainable for a lvl30 player.

That's all. Sorry.

[Freakish]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem to be stuck on "consistently" replenishing it.

How often do you play? Every night? A few hours?

How often are you in an indoor dungeon or grouped with a shaman, druid or ranger?

Answer those questions yourself. Then think each dose of a SoW potion lasts 36min. You won't need them indoors or when you're grouped with players who can cast it.

If you played exclusively outdoors and 3 hours a night every night (21 a week) and you always needed to be SoW'd and you only soloed, never grouping with someone who could SoW you. That would cost you 420pp a week to stay SoW'd.

The thing is, most players often travel to and exp in dungeons where you can't SoW or JBoot. Most players often don't need to be running fast when they are in a group at a static camp in an outdoor zone. Many players favor grouping over soloing and at your level 3/14 classes can cast SoW and 2 of those 3 are the most common on the server.

In actuality you probably won't even use more than 200pp a week even playing every day for 3 hours when all that is factored in.

See, when I solo I afk. A lot. 36 minutes of sow is more like 15 minutes of effective running. I time my afks by my health / mana situation, not by the timer on my buffs.

Its invaluable to constantly be 30% faster than the mob you're fighting. Especially if you get an add like those chromadrakes in Skyfire which will chain dispell you as you run for the zone!

ps, paid 0pp for all my jboots. Found my first pair in Sro from a spawn that someone had just left. Felt great killing AC as a lvl 35 necro with no cash and silk armor!

[Ezalor]

looked at op's posting history and he is obsessed with items

i think this guy just doesn't understand how to have fun in EQ without complaining constantly about how he has to actually work to get what he wants in EQ

[Daldaen]

But they really shouldn't be available to a level 30 character is the point.

40s-50 was the audience intended for the quest. At which point you can camp it in OOT. Or you could continue trying to camp a zonewide spawn in SRo, though you may be disappointed on a class with no tracking when that situation possibly repeats itself.

But anything contested like these are is going to be an enormous time sink. And the unfortunate reality of the server is that you can likely earn enough Platinum to purchase the item you want before you will find it uncamped and get it to drop for yourself. This is a symptom of too many alt's from too much time in Kunark and a symptom of every player on this server thinking their 6th alt HAS TO HAVE J-Boots, or they simply cannot function. Which is retarded--especially for 6th Alts who see maybe 10 hours of play time a month, a void easily filled by SoW potions.

[Itap]

Originally Posted by Ezalor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

looked at op's posting history and he is obsessed

Irony, you nailed it