Overcrowded

[Rararboker]

Originally Posted by lodgedogg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lmao im not a girl no epic for me lol. Trust me if you could take one unbagged item like original i would be there all day every day

The way you bitch and whine I feel like this can't be true. You must be a girl.

[lodgedogg]

nothing is better than flaunting their gear in front of them

[indiscriminate_hater]

damn bards took our jerbs

[Fanguru]

Classic was indeed overcrowded.
However, people here are overtwinked and know a lot about the game, making them more efficient.
1 group on p99 can easily hold what 2 groups would do on live.

If we could start by removing the silly epic MQs at level 1, leveling would feel a bit more classic.

That being said, people who complain about the server being overcrowded usually stay on the beaten path and only go to the most popular leveling spots. At 50+ there aren't many possibilities, but until 50 you have tons of opportunities to level up without anyone near you.

[Nottan]

Originally Posted by Fanguru [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Classic was indeed overcrowded.
However, people here are overtwinked and know a lot about the game, making them more efficient.
1 group on p99 can easily hold what 2 groups would do on live.

If we could start by removing the silly epic MQs at level 1, leveling would feel a bit more classic.

That being said, people who complain about the server being overcrowded usually stay on the beaten path and only go to the most popular leveling spots. At 50+ there aren't many possibilities, but until 50 you have tons of opportunities to level up without anyone near you.

I agree with this to an extent. But even off the beaten path is getting rough now with 1500+ on at primetime. The outdoor zones are all being swarmed by bards 24/7 and the indoors are crowded as hell. Unrest/MM/Guk/HHK will always be crowded but even places like SolA are seeing a ton of people. The places with low pop are generally people being PL'd as well, which makes them uncampable for actual leveling groups.

[Sampten]

Originally Posted by Nottan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree with this to an extent. But even off the beaten path is getting rough now with 1500+ on at primetime. The outdoor zones are all being swarmed by bards 24/7 and the indoors are crowded as hell. Unrest/MM/Guk/HHK will always be crowded but even places like SolA are seeing a ton of people. The places with low pop are generally people being PL'd as well, which makes them uncampable for actual leveling groups.

There are certain zones in this game that still largely remain untouched. People are too focused on what loot drops rather than venturing to zones just for a crawl.

Najena and Befallen are generally empty
Dalnir remains primarily empty
Kaesora is often empty
The Hole is largely empty
Nobody goes to Nurga and short of SS/Ledge Droga is empty
Kedge and Perma remain generally empty
I could continue but you get the point.

Some of these places offer little/no loot, but can be a fun group crawl. In addition some of those zones have XP modifiers.

While I agree that places like Seb and KC remain packed, there are other options out there for all level ranges.

If you want to make the argument that a lot quality gear camps are perma-camped, well that's a different conversation to be had.

[dafier]

Originally Posted by Sampten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are certain zones in this game that still largely remain untouched. People are too focused on what loot drops rather than venturing to zones just for a crawl.

If you want to make the argument that a lot quality gear camps are perma-camped, well that's a different conversation to be had.

You're last statement is an easy fix. Make those sought after items, No Drop. DONE!

I remember on Live having a level 60 Enchanter in Kunark. Before Velious was released I made a Mage. I was only 34 or 35 when Velious was released, but got to 60 with him too.

I didn't simply run around camping anything and everything with either of my characters, I helped my guildies out a lot with quests or leveling or whatever. It seems as if this server has nothing but a bunch of campers on it always looking to reach a million platinum!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrGQwMGqE-I

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by dafier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're last statement is an easy fix. Make those sought after items, No Drop. DONE!

No. Not classic. DONE!

[Sampten]

Originally Posted by dafier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're last statement is an easy fix. Make those sought after items, No Drop. DONE!

I remember on Live having a level 60 Enchanter in Kunark. Before Velious was released I made a Mage. I was only 34 or 35 when Velious was released, but got to 60 with him too.

I didn't simply run around camping anything and everything with either of my characters, I helped my guildies out a lot with quests or leveling or whatever. It seems as if this server has nothing but a bunch of campers on it always looking to reach a million platinum!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrGQwMGqE-I

Nah, don't need to be no drop. Put in the trivial loot code (TLC) which was on the FV server. If it's green and doesn't give XP, the item is trivial and there's a message and it's not there.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Nottan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree with this to an extent. But even off the beaten path is getting rough now with 1500+ on at primetime. The outdoor zones are all being swarmed by bards 24/7 and the indoors are crowded as hell. Unrest/MM/Guk/HHK will always be crowded but even places like SolA are seeing a ton of people. The places with low pop are generally people being PL'd as well, which makes them uncampable for actual leveling groups.

And by "the outdoor zones" you mean, some mobs 5 zones (East Karana, Overthere, Burning Woods, Lake of Ill Omen and occasionally South Karana).

Befallen
Gorge of King Xorbb
Runnyeye
Sol A
Kedge
Dalnir
Kaesora
Splitpaw
Cazic Thule
Blackburrow
Permafrost
Nurga
Droga

All those dungeons have like 1-2 people camping certain drops. Very rarely are there full groups there. Sol A is the only one listed where I've seen multiple groups present.

People stick too closely to the Easymode zones. Zones with casters or pose some other challenge people avoid.

The population can sustain another 500 in Kunark. Come Velious it could sustain another 1500~ I imagine.

The Sim Repop on Saturday brought the population up to like 1600-1700~.