9/11 - Inside Job?

[Japan]

but how steal catch fire it made of medal

[Raavak]

Anything burns if you get it hot enough.

[Dominick]

how is babby formed

[Raavak]

Bush had the building destroyed because Chenney beat him in poker and won his extensive Playboy collection. Chenney traded the collection to Skeeter Steiner who was a manager at Cantor Fitzgerald and gave Chenney a 1986 BMW for them. Skeeter then stored them in the company safe and repeatedly refused to sell them back to George. In revenge George took the place down. Rumor also has it Miss May 1970 autographed his copy with a racy remark to the then air force pilot.

[Dominick]

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[Japan]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anything burns if you get it hot enough.

WOW you're wrong.

1. water
2. medals
3. soggy leaves

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WOW you're wrong.

1. water
2. medals
3. soggy leaves

2. Medals?? I think you mean metals correct?

Well here is some infor for ya about metals (specificly steel)
The yield strength of most ferrous metals does not hold up well under heat. Most steel will have a yield point reduction of around 25% at 600°F. It's not until the addition of nickel and other alloying components which are very expensive, does steel start to do better under high temp conditions.

Steel support beamd and girders are ferrous materials (ferrous meanign they contain iron) So technicly they do not really burn but they lose strength and melt under high heat which is what I belive the commison found.

[Bojangles]

Originally Posted by Eccentricaa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Folks hate Obama.. They hated the Bushes.. They disliked Clinton because he got a BJ..

But ALL OF THEM have the same advisors, the same people running most of the larger departments.

There is no difference between them.


Turn off any for profit news station. Especially anything owned by Newscorp.


As far as socialism... Its been here, longer than you have. You are probably here alive today because of it.

Public libraries, roads, bridges, police, fire stations, EMS, schools, social security, medicare, parks, even your utilities, and your precious world wide web are ALL SOCIALIST (in the beginning, most are now controlled by for profit companies) Hell, even the farm subsidies, that provide you with cheap food are socialist.

Capitalism is the problem IMO.
(before you bash that statement, hear me out.)

A government wants to build a road. It used to directly hire the individuals to build the road. It used to buy the materials to build the road. The government would build the road. There were once good paying government jobs, with benefits, retirement, etc. Those people tried to do a good job, in order to keep their job.

With capitalism, A government wants to build the road. It wastes time getting bids on the road. Goes with a company who may or may not be the lowest bidder, maybe the CEO is a college buddy, or a company the elected official previously worked for. That company, out to make a profit, hires the cheapest labor, buys and uses the cheapest material, does a rush job (because there's more money to make elsewhere). We end up with a road, that needs repaired the year later. Its not in that company's best interest to provide a long lasting quality job. Its better for the industry if they dont. That company's interest is in making money, and not serving the people of the country.

The government ends up paying more money, for a road of less quality.

Thanks to capitalism -
* * Our tax dollars subsidized the creation of the internet, paid the utility companies to lay the lines, and yet that company still charges us to access the lines WE already paid for through tax dollars.
* * Our tax dollars help pay for the power stations, the utility lines, including emergency funding after a major storm, and yet we still pay for profit companies to have the luxury of turning on the light?
* * Our schools in most states now have for profit companies that provide school lunches, run sporting events, run the school bus systems, and even hiring 'educational consultants' to determine curriculum. These area all companies that are creating profits by providing less.
If I send my kid to school with 2 bucks a day for school lunch, why in the fuck is she getting 30cents worth of food? How much does it really cost to make mac and cheese, bean burritos, mashed potatoes, or 3 fish sticks?
* * A portion of every home owners property tax is used to pay for things like local hospitals, zoos, city beautification,
* *The Obamacare policy forces people to pay into FOR PROFIT companies to buy insurance, or be penalized through the IRS system. If Obamacare was an actual socialist policy, it would be a non profit system that is controlled and owned by the public, and not 'for profit' companies.

By definition, socialism is an economic and political theory advocating public or common ownership and cooperative management of the means of production and allocation of resources.

Why wouldn't you want to control the things you already pay for? To have some say in how your money was spent. This is money your already spending. Emptying your pockets of your hard earned money, and handing it over to for profit companies.

If you remove the profit, you get the same thing, for less money.

You have an incomplete understanding of what socialist and capitalist means.


Stanlei:
"Please feel free to explain how a steel framed building (Building 7) collapsed from a simple fire and yet no steel building in history has ever collapsed due to a fire before this event, and none after?"

It wasn't a simple fire. It was a plane weighing several hundred tons, moving at several hundred miles an hour slamming into the building. Buildings are designed mainly to support weight from the top, not lateral motion. See Dominick's post above for a far more detailed explanation.

"P.S. The US government stands a lot more to gain than it does to lose from this act, both in revenue and public support. Assuming that their story is true/believed."

Yeah, that recession and the billions we have spent on homeland defense, along with 2 wars has really left us with some fat coffers and little or no debt. What exactly did the gov gain from public support? If they had the power to pull this off, why didn't they have the power to keep people supporting them afterwards?

Japan:
"WOW you're wrong. [that everything burns]

1. water
2. medals
3. soggy leaves"


Incorrect.

1. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ing-water.html

2. http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1961RSPSA.261..357H

3. OK, you got me there.

[Raavak]

"burning" is just rapid oxidation

Water is technically a biproduct of hydrocarbon combustion, but if you add enough energy/ heat you can get the atoms to disassociate, and then burn back together. The National Geographic article describes this with a real life example.

But this digresses. Though metal (medal) can burn, thats not what happened. It just got hot enough to lower its yield strength to a point it failed.

[Dominick]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Though metal (medal) can burn, thats not what happened. It just got hot enough to lower its yield strength to a point it failed.

I was going to bring up thermite. Thermite is basically powdered aluminum and iron. It is detonated with a cap to burn at about 2500C.