History Revised: Enraptured

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

time out.

firstly, my post starts with "if i remember correctly" not with "let me lay down historical uncontestable facts". please note that in my post i say Enraptured was created before TMO was suspended, and at no point in my post did i say Enraptured was created to circumvent a ban.

maybe i was wrong about who physically created the guild, but this part is indeed fact as i saw it happen first hand; TMO leadership point blank told members to tag under Enraptured to avoid the suspension. as soon as the suspension was over, they had planned to return to TMO. the entire thing was a sham.

I'm gonna stop you right there. At the time Zeelot and Did where telling people to join enraptured to train VP they where far from officers.

At that time they had publically "quit" the game and wanted to train IB before they got banned/left.

At no did after zeelots meltdown did the guild follow his advice outside a few others like Loly.

Saying that this was some sort of guild sanctioned event is foolish at the least.

On another topic calling Rampage a different guild is also erronious as well.

They owned the guild domain for rampageguild since the times when they called themselves Transatlantic Rampage. They have already moved over their forums and they are keeping a "private" excell spreadsheet of previous IB DKP(mostly likely A-team as well)

They are using the same forums, the same dkp, the same officers.

No one was fooled when Comcast renamed themselves xfinity why are you being fooled by this shit?

[Fael]

Blackwater is a better example Tiggles. Rape... murder... nothing a little rebrand cant fix to keep the government contracts flowing.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Blackwater is a better example Tiggles. Rape... murder... nothing a little rebrand cant fix to keep the government contracts flowing.

I'm far more upset about this whole thing now that I know IB rebranded to get out of a rape and murder suspension

[Signal]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm far more upset about this whole thing now that I know IB rebranded to get out of a rape and murder suspension

Agreed. IB knew they had petitions in against them. To claim otherwise and even attempt to get out of the suspension with a rebrand is one of the shadiest things I have witnessed on this server. The fact that Sirken even admits he was going to let them off of those penalties is just head scratching.

[Fael]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm far more upset about this whole thing now that I know IB rebranded to get out of a rape and murder suspension

Still falls short of a hitler analogy!

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm gonna stop you right there. At the time Zeelot and Did where telling people to join enraptured to train VP they where far from officers.

At that time they had publically "quit" the game and wanted to train IB before they got banned/left.

At no did after zeelots meltdown did the guild follow his advice outside a few others like Loly.

Saying that this was some sort of guild sanctioned event is foolish at the least.

On another topic calling Rampage a different guild is also erronious as well.

They owned the guild domain for rampageguild since the times when they called themselves Transatlantic Rampage. They have already moved over their forums and they are keeping a "private" excell spreadsheet of previous IB DKP(mostly likely A-team as well)

They are using the same forums, the same dkp, the same officers.

No one was fooled when Comcast renamed themselves xfinity why are you being fooled by this shit?

Remember when comcast was Comcast @ home and they did that bankrupcy to avoid paying for the infrastructure they built before chapter 11 reforms? Well TMO is worse than that

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

time out.

firstly, my post starts with "if i remember correctly" not with "let me lay down historical uncontestable facts". please note that in my post i say Enraptured was created before TMO was suspended, and at no point in my post did i say Enraptured was created to circumvent a ban.

maybe i was wrong about who physically created the guild, but this part is indeed fact as i saw it happen first hand; TMO leadership point blank told members to tag under Enraptured to avoid the suspension. as soon as the suspension was over, they had planned to return to TMO. the entire thing was a sham.

That should have been enough reason to disband the guild entirely. Pretty much spit in the face of the staff.

[kaev]

When I tagged as Enraptured I got a ton of tells from other people I knew that were all some variation on "Why'd you tag Enraptured, don't you know they're run by a pack of TMO sockpuppets?"

Then we got dragged along on TMO's coattails for a few raids, I remember Sky & a Cazic fail/wipe not sure if there were others.

Then I logged in one day to a MOTD that was words to the effect of "The guild leaders mains are now tagged TMO, all L60s are invited to app TMO, the rest of you should get L60 and app TMO".

Conclusion: <Enraptured> was led by a pack of TMO sockpuppets.

[rictus204]

TMO alt guilds, unite!!

[Fael]

Just felt like clearing it up some, partly because sirken prefaced his ruling with "if i remember correctly."

In the big scheme of things, enraptured was a 2 month blip on the radar. Not like I blame sirken for not keeping track of every detail for every insignificant guild that occured over the 5 years or so hes been doing this.

I just felt like the details he remembered were more in line with what competition was spamming the forums with, and not what actually happened. Although Kaev remembers it differently, I recall a good faith effort on the part of the officers to try to create something.

When the going got tough, they opted to take the easy route and merge... and not to many of those in enraptured are still around to recount the details.