Alright, IB, Dozekar and Blackwater, knock it off

[Abacab niggah]

Some of you guys are retarded when it comes to Blackwater the organization or any contractor in general...

But here is the anti-pinkerton act for your reading pleasure

http://uscode.house.gov/uscode-cgi/f...8%29%29%3ACITE

The only thing the United States didn't agree on when it comes to mercenary roles in combat is several U.N protocols that forfeit a mercenaries right to "prisoner of war" status if captured in combat, because insurgents and terrorists are required to be treated as POW's the United States found it hypocritical.

[Loke]

1st Bn 4th Marines, Charlie Company was also sent to New Orleans. For those of you unfamiliar with what that unit is, 1/4 C company is an infantry unit comprised primarily of 03## infantry marines.... basically it is a 100% combat oriented unit. They aren't a logistical or supply or any other sort of unit - they are infantry Marines who are trained for the sole purpose of conducting combat operations.

Now compare that to blackwater. What is more ridiculous, deploying the MARINES (see: first strike force in basically every major conflict in US history) to a disaster area within the United States, or a private security firm being hired to assist in maintaining order?

People really have no idea what blackwater does. They are a security force. Everyone thinks they're out their running direct action missions, but that simply isn't the case. Our govt doesn't use private companies to run black side direct action missions - that is what CAG teams or the DIA is for.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1st Bn 4th Marines, Charlie Company was also sent to New Orleans. For those of you unfamiliar with what that unit is, 1/4 C company is an infantry unit comprised primarily of 03## infantry marines.... basically it is a 100% combat oriented unit. They aren't a logistical or supply or any other sort of unit - they are infantry Marines who are trained for the sole purpose of conducting combat operations.

Now compare that to blackwater. What is more ridiculous, deploying the MARINES (see: first strike force in basically every major conflict in US history) to a disaster area within the United States, or a private security firm being hired to assist in maintaining order?

People really have no idea what blackwater does. They are a security force. Everyone thinks they're out their running direct action missions, but that simply isn't the case. Our govt doesn't use private companies to run black side direct action missions - that is what CAG teams or the DIA is for.

Alright, its settled then. The Blackwater guild can stay!

[Retan]

But I didnt get to post my worthless opinion yet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People really have no idea what blackwater does. They are a security force. Everyone thinks they're out their running direct action missions, but that simply isn't the case. Our govt doesn't use private companies to run black side direct action missions - that is what CAG teams or the DIA is for.

Are you completely ignorant of the controversy involving blackwater? We're all aware of what blackwater's intended to do, but there's a huge abyss between that and what they've actually done and been accused of (for instance, raping US army personnel, conducting interrogations without permission, torture, indiscriminate killing, arms sales, and numerous other crimes). They're a gang of thugs who the US has no control over because they're desperately in need of troops - so even if their official mandate is just to provide security, that isn't all they've done.

Also, the more I think about it, it's wrong to prejudge what they meant when they chose the name blackwater. I'm sure they're referring to the private military contractors but considering how many things are named "Blackwater" I guess it's not that offensive. I guess I've just never seen a guild name that could even be considered offensive so I was a bit surprised that the name Blackwater was allowed to pass.

[Dominick]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(for instance, raping US army personnel, conducting interrogations without permission, torture, indiscriminate killing, arms sales, and numerous other crimes).

They have offices. Why doesn't someone just serve them with a lawsuit?

Because these are made up. Its easy to make an accusation in support of a political agenda, and so many willing dupes will buy it because it fits a popular prejudice.

[Abacab niggah]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you completely ignorant of the controversy involving blackwater? We're all aware of what blackwater's intended to do, but there's a huge abyss between that and what they've actually done and been accused of (for instance, raping US army personnel, conducting interrogations without permission, torture, indiscriminate killing, arms sales, and numerous other crimes). They're a gang of thugs who the US has no control over because they're desperately in need of troops - so even if their official mandate is just to provide security, that isn't all they've done.

Do you have any proof of these allegations from a private security firm? Because I can definitely show you every allegation you've listed holds true for the U.S armed forces, but I haven't seen one smudge on any private security firm aside from the usual political ramifications and agendas.

[Dominick]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People really have no idea what blackwater does. They are a security force. Everyone thinks they're out their running direct action missions, but that simply isn't the case. Our govt doesn't use private companies to run black side direct action missions - that is what CAG teams or the DIA is for.

Absolutely correct.

Hollywood has painted a much different picture. People with political agendas paint a different picture.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People really have no idea what blackwater does. They are a security force. Everyone thinks they're out their running direct action missions, but that simply isn't the case. Our govt doesn't use private companies to run black side direct action missions - that is what CAG teams or the DIA is for.

This is the only genuine post in this entire thread.

[Rhalous]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is more ridiculous, deploying the MARINES (see: first strike force in basically every major conflict in US history) to a disaster area within the United States, or a private security firm being hired to assist in maintaining order?

I'm not really sure where you're going with this, and it doesn't really matter to me, but seeing as I'm from New Orleans, I'll tell you that it was indeed a combat zone post-Katrina. Blackwater was there, too. Post-Katrina was a complete cluster fuck and there was most certainly rape, murder, drug wars, and all other types of criminal behavior going on.